[HPforGrownups] James' essence/some Sirius and his family WAS: Re: Choic...
puduhepa98 at aol.com
puduhepa98 at aol.com
Wed Jun 21 02:14:02 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154121
>Carol writes
>There is absolutely no evidence that even the teenage Severus (as
opposed to the child Severus) practiced Dark magic at this
point--except the single spell Sectumsempra, which apparently was
invented as retaliation against "enemies," nor is there any evidence
that he was a supporter of the Dark Lord when the Pensieve incident
occurred.
<snip>
>Even if James did oppose the Dark Arts as a kid at school, even if he
disliked Severus because he associated him from Day One with the Dark
Arts, that was no excuse for his behavior. (Nor does it excuse his
accomplice, Sirius Black.) More important to the present argument, I
see no indication of any such association of Severus Snape with the
Dark Arts in young *James's* mind. I do see it in young Sirius's mind.
His family were Dark wizards with a tradition of being placed in
Slytherin. Severus Snape at eleven was a clever little boy who knew
more hexes by far than he should have known at that age. He must have
seemed like the ultimate Slytherin to Sirius (something like the boy
his parents wanted him to be). And it might not have been difficult to
persuade James to share that view. Or Sirius may simply have been
projecting his reasons for hating Severus onto James. If I had to
think of a reason why both boys hated Severus (and Sirius's hatred
seems stronger to me than James's), I'd say that it's probably a
hatred of Slytherin House, which they project onto the most talented
Slytherin in their year.
Nikkalmati:
Part of our problem here is not only that we don't know enough about James,
we don't know enough about Snape (or what exactly are the Dark Arts). I
assume that Snape was pegged with the Dark Arts association because he knew so
many curses when he came to school. BTW how did Sirius know Snape knew a lot
of curses? I would guess that Snape had to use them in self-defense because
Sirius and his friends started bullying him right away. JMO. Snape must have
learned these curses at home or whatever passed as a home. Perhaps the Dark
Arts were the only form of magic available to him. Did his mother teach him
magic? His father was a Muggle. Was the man angry in the Pensive scene
because Snape's mother was teaching him magic? Snape undoubtedly would have
shown signs of magical ability at an early age and someone had to direct him. He
had his mother's potions book, not necessarily because he could not afford a
new one, but perhaps, because she had used it to teach him? The notes could
be partly hers or things he had learned from her. Were the Princes a Dark
Magic family like the Blacks? That would explain why Sirius would have labeled
Snape from the very first as an opponent. As Carol says, we have much more
reason to believe Sirius hated the Dark Arts than James.
Nikkalmati
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