Christian themes in HP
puduhepa98 at aol.com
puduhepa98 at aol.com
Wed Jun 21 03:17:38 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154126
> Tonks:
> >>> <snip> (Since I have said that the COS was the tomb of Christ,
> and I see DD as a symbol of Christ, to me it ties together. And I
> think that JKR meant to tie those two images together in that
> moment.) <snip> Since I think that DD is a Christ figure I do think
> that we will see him again. <<<
>
> Barbara Kraus wrote:
> >> I think this is a wonderful story and a world I would like to
> enter...but do you really think that J.K. Rowling was trying to
> write in parallels to the Bible? I think you do a disservice to
> her... The Harry Potter stories are so well-written - <snip> -
> when I read the biblical comparisons here, I can only think...oh,
> please. Give me a break. <<
>
> Katie:
> I have to agree with Barbara. I think that reducing great
literature to Bible allegory fails to see the beauty of the story
itself.
> I feel (in my opinion) that people who try to see Christian
> stuff in HP are in some way assuaging some misplaced guilt about
> being Christian and reading about witches. It just isn't there!
There is no Christian allegory in HP. (snip)> I just don't
understand why everything has to relate to religion! I
> am a pretty faithful pagan, and I don't relate everything I do,
read, or see to my religion.
>
> Now, I am also a fan of the Narnia series, which is a well-known
> and purposeful allegory to the Bible, but the story of Narnia can
> also be read without looking for Christian themes, and still be a
> wonderful and magical story. Can't we all just read HP for what it
> is? - a fantastical and magical and unique work of literature
(snip>
Tonks:
The Narnia series is an allegory, and why it is perfectly OK to read
it as just an enjoyable story you can not just wish away the basic
intent of the author, or tell others who do see the author's intent
that they are just imagining it.
The HP series IMO is not an allegory like Narnia. JKR has a
subliminal story running under the surface and she does some unique
things with symbolism. If you don't see it, that is fine. But when
the final book is written and JKR tells what she has done, if she
proves me wrong, no big deal. I will still love and treasure the
books. On the other hand if JKR says that she has used symbols and
ideas from Christianity in the constructions of her books, I suspect
that some here will burn them or use them for mulch. Such is the
bias that I hear voiced here against the very *idea* that there
could be anything that looks like Christianity in the books.
Nikkalmati:
When Tonks first wrote that she had seen resistance to the discussion of
Christian themes in the books, I thought "well, I haven't seen it." I have seen
it now. The author herself has said that there is a Christian theme to the
books which will become obvious after Book 7. I do not agree with all of the
links made on this list by various individuals to Christian symbols or
parallels to Biblical characters or stories, but many of them are interesting and
stimulate thought. I personally don't "get' the alchemy references many
others find and some of the astronomy connections are "far out".:>) However, I
certainly don't feel these discussions should be abandoned or that they are
not worth pursuing. Why should discussions about the Christian meanings in the
books be any different?
Nikkalmati
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