Evil Snape
dumbledore11214
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Mon Jun 26 14:20:56 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154351
Pippin:
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> As for not revealing his 'real' reason for trusting Snape--
>
> What if there isn't a 'real' reason? After all, why does Harry trust
> Ron and Hermione? or Dumbledore himself? It isn't because they've
> never let him down, or because he's sure they never would. They
> have, and as long as they're alive they may again, because they're
> human.
Alla:
Um, I am sure there can be found some incidents in canon where Ron
and Hermione let Harry down, but I would argue that yes, on the big
scale they never did.
Ron did not treat Harry like garbage from the first time they met,
quite the contrary.
Hermione did not help to make Harry an orphan, etc, etc.
They are human, of course, but I would argue that they stood by Harry
always in the grand scheme of things.
I would leave out the question of why Harry trusts DD because that is
sometimes a puzzle for me. :)
Pippin:
> It isn't because they've performed some spectacular act of
atonement,
Alla:
Do they HAVE something to atone for? Ron and Hermione, I mean. The
only time Ron IMO was not right to leave Harry, he wanted to
apologise. But that is surely not comparable to what Snape is guilty
of , no?
> Purely and simply, Harry trusts them because he values their
> friendship. In the end that is the only reason to trust anybody.
Alla:
It IS, if those people did not do really bad things towards someone
who supposed to trust them and Snape did IMO.
Pippin:
> The mere fact that Harry is asking for proof shows that he doesn't
> understand why anybody would value Snape's friendship, so
> it would be useless to explain it to him. Now maybe there was
> some incident, like facing a troll together, that cemented
Dumbledore's
> understanding of what a good friend Snape could be. But if
> Harry were determined to distrust Snape, what difference would
> knowing about that make? He already knows that Snape has saved
> both Dumbledore and himself at least once and he's still not
> convinced.
Alla:
The difference it makes because it is maybe enough for DD, but it is
not enough for Harry, who now knows that he has to in part thank
Snape for growing up without his parents IMO, that Snape barked at
him the moment he saw him.
As to what difference it would make? It would have shown Harry that
Snape maybe a bastard, but a bastard who is on our side.
Alla, who thinks that Dumbledore better have a REALLY good reason to
trust Snape.
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