Of essence divided?
houyhnhnm102
celizwh at intergate.com
Mon Jun 26 17:55:58 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154368
Peggy:
> I don't think his "have you forgotten our orders"
> can be taken one way or the other, as far as his
> being a loyal DE or DDM!Snape... we know only that
> they have been given that order.
houyhnhnm:
We only know that Snape *says* they have been given
that order. There is no corroborating evidence.
I see what you are saying. That Snape could only have
dared to make such a claim if they *had* been given
such orders and Snape knew about it and the DEs knew he knew.
But see what follows from that assumption. For it
to be true, Snape would have to have been in on the
plans to bring Death Eaters into Hogwarts. Draco
says he wasn't. Of course Draco may have been left
partially out of the loop himself. He certainly was
not informed of the fact that Fenrir Greyback was
coming along for the ride. But if Snape had a higher
security clearance, so to speak, than Draco, isn't it
logical that he would have been told of what Draco was
trying to accomplish in the RoR.
But then, if Snape was in on the plan to invade Hogwarts,
and he is DDM, Dumbledore would have to known also, and
Dumbledore claims not to have known.
On the other hand, we know from Karkaroff (and from
everything we've seen of Voldemort) that Voldemort
keeps his minions in the dark. Like all tyrants,
he maintains contol by keeping his followers suspicious
and jealous of each other, pretending to have favorites
but trusting no one. This creates a fertile atmosphere
for a spinner to work in and Snape is a master spinner.
The crew of DEs at Hogwarts that night were a pretty
dim-witted lot. It is hard to imagine that Amycus and
Alecto, for example, have ever even been in a position
to *imagine* that they were the Dark Lord's favorites.
Here is Big Bad Snape, who *has* done a pretty good job
(as we see at Spinner's End) of convincing the other DE's
that he is Voldemort's right hand man, telling them to
"remember our orders". Even if they never heard any such
thing, the DEs are not going to question him. They aren't
going to want to admit that they were left out of the loop.
"Oh, yeah, *those* orders."
I think there is a very good possibility that Snape was
bluffing. At any rate there can be no certainty that
Voldemort did really give such an order; therefore, I
don't think it is wise to use that *fact* as a premise
on which to build other arguments.
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