Harry's arrogance /Evil Snape
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Jun 26 19:24:13 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154376
> Alla:
>
> Yes, Pippin that is exactly what I am saying. Under circumstances
> described I think that this is very far fetched to expect fake death
> on the Tower. I consider it especially far fetched since JKR was IMo
> rather clear in the interviews about Dumbledore's death.
>
> It is your right of course to disbelieve her interviews, I do believe
> them.
Pippin:
I believe in the interviews, but there is nothing in them to say that
Snape was the killer. JKR is an admirer of Agatha Christie, and it
would be very Christie to have a fake AK followed by a real death
caused by other means, especially since we know that Dumbledore
was deathly ill. It's hardly more far-fetched than a character who
has been a rat for two books turning out to be a human.
Pippin:>
> > > Or are you saying that it would be wrong? If so, was it wrong
> for Lily to leave James to his fate and try to flee with Harry? I
> don't think JKR is going there.
>
> Alla:
>
> Wrong to try and save Dumbledore? Of course not - the Snape who would
> do that is a noble hero, it is just I am not buying that this is what
> happened. Sorry!
>
> But hey, if this is what happened, you will tell me "told you so"
> after book 7 :)
>
> I am curious though where you found analogy with Lily and James on
> the Tower.
Pippin:
Wrong to try and save Harry, at the cost of leaving Dumbledore in peril.
Lily, at James's order, left him to face Voldemort alone. She could have
stayed at James's side and fought with him, but instead she ran to save
Harry. If Snape, at Dumbledore's request, pretended to kill him and fled
in order to save Harry and Draco, is that not similar to what Lily did?
>
>
> > Carol notes:
> >
> > To repeat, *if* Snape's choice was between killing Dumbledore and
> > Harry's almost certain death fighting four DEs (and Draco, if he
> > joined in), surely the correct choice was to save Harry?
>
>
> Alla:
>
> The problem with this question as I see it is that this choice would
> NEVER occur exactly as you describe IMO.
>
> Even if Snape keeps telling himself ( and I am describing Snape which
> I am not buying, just for the sake of the argument) that he is
> killing DD for the sake of saving Harry only, we KNOW that it is not
> true, unless Snape is Saint. IMO of course.
>
> Snape's life is ALWAYS in the equasion, because if he does not kill
> DD, he is well... dead, no?
Pippin:
Narcissa neglected to put any kind of time constraint on the vow.
It does not say *when* Snape has to carry out the task, does it?
I don't see that he would have necessarily dropped dead at
once if he didn't kill Dumbledore immediately upon Draco's
failure, or if Dumbledore died through misadventure or from old age,
though it probably wouldn't have been healthy for Snape to refuse
the task outright.
Pippin
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