Was Severus in the Slug Club? (Was: Snape liked Hogwarts? )
zgirnius
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Mon Jun 26 19:28:14 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154377
fair wynn:
> I don't have my book here, but I'm fairly certain that Slughorn
*did* try to
> get Hermione to join.
zgirnius:
That is right. She even attended those meetings Harry foudn ways out
of (like detention, or Quidditch practice).
fair wynn:
> Hermione's primary attribute (in Slughorn's estimation) would
probably be
> her intelligence and possibly her link to Harry. She's not
wealthy,
> well-connected, beautiful, or popular.
zgirnius:
That it was her intelligence that interested him is less clear. In
his first meeting with Harry, the blood question came up. Harry told
Slughorn that one of his best friends was a Muggleborn, and she was
also the best student in his year. Slughorn knew this was Hermione
during the first class-he made this clear be referring to Harry's
comment. So it could be either or a combination of both, that made
her worthy of inclusion in his eyes.
fair wynn:
> I agree that Slughorn's inviting Snape to the Christmas party is
strong
> evidence that he was in the Club. No other faculty member was
there other
> than Trelawney (and she did have "connections" from her ancestry).
If it
> was simply professional curtesy that Snape was invited, then all
other
> faculty would have been invited as well.
> If that was the case, wouldn't
> professional curtesy have brought at least a few other faculty
members to
> accept their invitations and attend the party?
zgirnius:
I had assumed the faculty were invited, and courtesouly declined,
except Sybill, who could not missd the opportunity for a greater
quality of booze, and Snape, who wanted to keep an eye on any
suspicious outsiders Sluggie may have invited. (Hence, the skulking
in the corners).
Also, Snape has a different relationship to Slughorn compared to the
other faculty. He was his student, in his house, and took over his
teaching position. To my mind, this could be another reason to accept
the invitation.
fair wynn:
> There is some evidence that he would have
> been (Christmas party, his own aptitude with potions, being in
Slytherin).
> Therefore, the weight of evidence rests in him being in the Slug
Club.
zgirnius:
I don't think he was. Not being recognized for his achievements and
abilities just seems to be what happens to him. I have trouble
imagining it was different at school.
Of the evidence for you list, I do not think being in SLytherin
belongs. We have no indication it makes one more likely to get in. In
HBP, we see the SLytherin Blaise Zabini in the club. That's it. Among
Gryffindors, Harry, Hermione, Ginny, and COrmac make it in (and
Neville is considered). It appears that Sluggie does not favor
his House in this (or anything else, for that matter).
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