Of essence divided?
houyhnhnm102
celizwh at intergate.com
Tue Jun 27 01:13:13 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154405
Annemehr:
> I don't believe that what you are saying actually does
> follow from Peggy's assumption. The orders, if they were
> actually given, need not apply to this particular mission
> alone, but can be something very general that LV told all
> his DEs at some earlier time: "Whatever happens, no one is
> to harm Potter; he's mine."
houyhnhnm:
But there is no evidence that he did so.
This an appeal to ignorance.
Annemehr:
> In fact, there is actually some corroborating evidence,
> in GoF, at the end of ch. 34: "Stand aside! I will kill him!
> He is mine!" shrieked Voldemort, as Harry ran for the Portkey.
houyhnhnm:
Voldemort did claim Harry in the graveyard when he
already had Harry in front of him, but that is not
the same thing as saying that the DEs are to leave
him for LV under all circumstances.
After Harry came back, Barty Crouch, Jr. said, "Imagine
how he will reward me when he finds I have done it for
him. I gave you to him--the thing he needed above all
to regenerate--and then I killed you for him. I will
be honored above all other Death Eaters." (GoF35)
During the confrontation in the Department of Mysteries,
Lucius Malfoy told the DEs, "Be gentle with Potter until
we've got the prophecy, you can kill the others if necessary...."
"Until we've got the prophecy" sounds like it's okay
to do whatever they want with Potter after they've
retrieved the prophecy. Surely Lucius would have told
them specifically not to kill Harry, if those were
Voldemort's orders.
Finally, there is no mention of any such order in the
conversation at Spinner's End. Since the issue of Harry's
life does come up in that conversation, it would be the
logical place for the author to insert some corroborating
evidence for Snape's command to the Death Eaters on the lawn.
There isn't any.
In short there is no evidence to back up Snape's claim
that Harry is to be left for the Dark Lord. On the other
hand, it is odd that Snape used that claim to stop the DE's
from performing cruciatus on Harry. No one had tried to
use the Avadra. Why would Voldemort care if Harry got
tortured a little? Fenrir had already tried to take a
nibble. And why not kidnap Harry and take to Voldemort
if he belongs to the Dark Lord rather than leaving him
behind to continue being a threat?
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