Outraged Harry ( was: Snape ... Dumbledore's sacrifice)

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 149136

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...>
wrote:
> > bboyminn:
> >
> > War is a terrible, horrible afront  to humanity. [
] we simply
> > have to face it with all it's horror, violation, and atrocity. 

> Eggplant:
> 
> I could not agree with you more, that's why I had such little
> patience when people were horrified the Harry in book 5 raised
> his voice at his friends a few times. As you say this is WAR and
> is no time to be squeamish. In the next book I want to see Harry
> do something REALLY controversial, I want to see the self 
> appointed guardians of the nations morals do the only thing they
> do well, be outraged. In short I want to see Harry Potter turn 
> into Dirty Harry.
> 
> Eggplant
>

bboyminn:

Well, we finally agree on something. I too found no problem with
CapsLock!Harry. In fact, I can't see any other logical response to the
situation. How could he NOT be angry and frustrated? 

As to the next book, once again, I too see DirtyHarry!Harry. I see him
marching into the Ministry and demanding that they work with him on
HIS terms. No posters boy public relations symbol; you tell me
everthing you know and give me full access and full cooperation, and
in return, I will tell you what I think you need to know when I think
you need to know it. 

I don't think the Minister will take kindly to being treated in such a
blunt way. But I think once Harry explains that either the Ministry is
for him or they are against him, and if they are against him then they
are for Voldemort, and if the Minister doesn't like that, then perhaps
it's time for Harry to publish another article exposing how inept,
uncooperative, and dangerous the Ministry's attitude is.

In a sense, Harry will blackmail the Ministry into cooperation; 'Do as
I say, or suffer the consequences'.

Maybe it will happen that way and maybe it won't, but I can certainly
see Harry getting fed up with the bureaucratic and political posturing
and ineffective token actions, and finally deciding it's time to KICK
SOME BUTT.

In general, the thing that amazes me, and worries me, is that on every
front Harry is facing an impossible task. At this stage, without
Dumbledore's help, I don't see how Harry can possibly find all the
Horcruxes. A wizard could spend the rest of his life on that job and
never finish it. At this stage, without Dumbledore's help, I don't see
how Harry has or can every have sufficient magical skill to defeat
Voldemort. Snape stomped all over Harry in their 'great escape' duel,
and it reasonable to assume that Voldemort is more powerful than
Snape. Again, from our limited perspective, Harry could train for the
rest of his life, and perhaps not reach the dueling skill level of
Voldemort. 

Further, I don't want to hear any crap about 'love conquers all'.
While it may be true that doesn't help Harry. He can't sit around
doing nothing to perpare on the assumption that in the final battle he
can just give Voldemort a hug and a kiss, and everything will be fine.

>From Harry's current perspective, he has A LOT to learn, and little
time to learn it. He has to find the Horcruxes, and by the time he
finds them, he has to learn how to destroy them. Compound that by the
fact that learning how to find them, to spot magic residue, and
learning how to destroy them is a massive feat in and of itself. Then
once he learns all that, he actually has to find them. Then to
complicate thing further, he has to gain the skill to effectively
fight a powerful, dark and dangerous wizard. 

It seems that JKR has book 7 planned out, so she knows how she is
going to deal with all these impossible problems. Given that fact that
she has worked very hard to paint Harry into an impossible corner, any
reasonable rational solution is bound to be stunning, and if by some
stroke of magic, she has a wonderfully imaginitive solution to all
this, so much the better for us all.  

So, on this last point, the situation is so impossible that any
solution is bound to be good, but the potential exists for a solution
what will leave us stunned and talking for years to come.

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn