Outraged Harry ( was: Snape ... Dumbledore's sacrifice)

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 149189

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

Steve/bboyminn:
> Further, I don't want to hear any crap about 'love conquers all'.
> While it may be true that doesn't help Harry. He can't sit around
> doing nothing to perpare on the assumption that in the final battle 
he
> can just give Voldemort a hug and a kiss, and everything will be 
fine.
 
Geoff: That comment reminded me of a previous post. I quote from way 
back in the days when the world was young, to be precise message 
129890, when I was replying to a post from eggplant.
 
<quote> 
"niekycrins: 
> > why would this room, containing a force that is needed to conquer 
> > VM, be closed and apparently protected?mWhy not "unleash" it on 
> > LV while he was in the DOM? 

Eggplant: 
> I hope it's more than just love, otherwise the story could get so 
> sweet we'd all get diabetes. Love probably has something to do with 
> it but there must be something more than that because Dumbledore 
> says it is not only more wonderful than death it is more terrible 
> too. 

<snip> 

Geoff: 
No, we won't all get diabetes because it's real, deep love which /is/ 
more wonderful than death. 

Back in January 2004, I posted message 89069 which was in a thread 
about the locked room where I said that the room could contain both 
truth and love; the following is part of what I wrote: 

"Turning to Love. The problem with "love" is that, certainly in the 
English language, it is a word which has a wide range of meanings and 
is often used very loosely. It can range from "I love chocolate ice- 
cream" (which is really expressing a liking) to "I love you, my 
darling" to the altruistic love which can show itself in self- 
sacrifice – Lily protecting Harry as an example. I have on two 
occasions at least referred to C.S.Lewis' "The Four Loves" in which 
he writes on the four Greek words for love – eros, philos, agape and 
the one which always slips my memory(!)**; each one looking at a 
different facet of love. 

The deepest love – at least in my opinion as a Christian – is agape 
which is, I suppose, best described as the altruistic, serving, love 
which is not seeking anything in return but seeks only the best 
interest of its recipient." 

Jesus said "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his 
life for his friends" (John 15:13 New International Version). 

That is not solely a Christian prerogative; we see it often in the 
world today. I am not suggesting this either as the only way in which 
Harry can harness the power of the locked room. 

**Just for completeness, the missing word was "storge" - this was 
before the word had emerged in a possible title for Book 6." 
</quote> 

I think some posters are assuming a very shallow interpretation 
of "love" rather than the deepest one. An easy misunderstanding in 
these days when, as I said above, one word has to cope with a 
multiplicity of meanings. 

Changing the subject, I was delighted to see that, during today, on 
three occasions, we managed to get two consecutive messages which did 
not have the name Snape in the thread title. 

Anybody like to lay odds on getting three messages without his name?

Egad, sir, can there possibly be a dawning of light at the end of the 
tunnel? 
:-)) 

I'm glad I don't live in Snape.