High Noon for OFH!Snape

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 12 05:03:25 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 149466

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > <snip>
> > Why would *out for HIMSELF*!Snape care about the Malfoys or his 
> > duty as head of house to such an extent he puts his *life* on   
> > the line? 
> > <snip>

> >>Alla:
> I think we run into semantics here again, or maybe into ambiguity 
> of the terms. I really don't see how 'Out for Himself" Snape is 
> forbidden from wishing to protect Malfoy Jr.

Betsy Hp:
Oh, he's not forbidden.  But it does stretch believability for OFH!
Snape to risk his own life to do so.  Because than he'd no longer be 
out for himself.  He'd be out for Draco.  Or maybe the entire Malfoy 
clan.  But not himself.  Someone caring only about their own well-
being or gain does not risk their lives for someone else.  That 
would mean they were no longer out for themselves.  They'd be out 
for whomever they were risking their lives for.

> >>Alla:
> To me Out for Himself really does not mean that Snape cannot care 
> about anybody else BUT himself. To me Out For Himself only means  
> that Snape really does not care which SIDE wins in the war, that  
> he would side with whoever side wins, whichever side let him have 
> what he wants.
> But it surely does not mean that he cannot care for Malfoys, if   
> that is included in his goals for some reason which I am not aware 
> of yet.

Betsy Hp:
So he doesn't care who wins the war as long as the Malfoys survive? 
Um, then Snape wouldn't be out for himself would he?  He'd be out 
for the Malfoys.  

Because we're a bit beyond a mild caring for the Malfoys and into "I 
will risk my life to make sure Draco survives."  And yeah, there's 
no "out for himself" reason behind that.  Not that we've seen 
anyway. 

> >>Alla:
> <snip>
> Would I call Snape noble here because he genuinely cares for      
> Draco? No, sorry, not if he is willing to give Dumbledore's life   
> to Voldemort on the silver platter while protecting Draco.

Betsy Hp:
Nope, nothing noble in risking your life to save a child.  Very 
selfish that. <g>
 
> >>Alla, who loves LID!Snape more and more, but who still thinks   
> that he can coexist with OFH!Snape peacefully enough.

Betsy Hp:
I agree.  Except that it would be Peter Pettigrew playing that 
particular role.  He's a perfect example of an OFH!character dealing 
with a life-debt.  

Betsy Hp







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