High Noon for OFH!Snape

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 149469

> > >>Alla:
> > I think we run into semantics here again, or maybe into 
ambiguity 
> > of the terms. I really don't see how 'Out for Himself" Snape is 
> > forbidden from wishing to protect Malfoy Jr.
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> Oh, he's not forbidden.  But it does stretch believability for OFH!
> Snape to risk his own life to do so.  Because than he'd no longer 
be 
> out for himself.  He'd be out for Draco.  Or maybe the entire 
Malfoy 
> clan.  But not himself.  Someone caring only about their own well-
> being or gain does not risk their lives for someone else.  That 
> would mean they were no longer out for themselves.  They'd be out 
> for whomever they were risking their lives for.

Alla:

Not to me, to me it does not stretch the believability of OFH!Snape 
in the slightest. OFH!Snape may have different goals,which we don't 
know yet. One of them may be genuinely caring for Draco. What OFH!
Snape does NOT have is the permanent, unwavering loyalty to light 
side, no matter what. 

 
> Betsy Hp:
> So he doesn't care who wins the war as long as the Malfoys 
survive? 
> Um, then Snape wouldn't be out for himself would he?  He'd be out 
> for the Malfoys.  

Alla:

I just said above that caring for Malfoys maybe included in OFH!
Snape goals, for the reasons we are not privy too yet.
 
Betsy Hp:
> Because we're a bit beyond a mild caring for the Malfoys and 
into "I 
> will risk my life to make sure Draco survives."  And yeah, there's 
> no "out for himself" reason behind that.  Not that we've seen 
> anyway. 

Alla:

Not that we haven't seen yet is the key to me. Who knows, maybe 
Snape owes Malfoys big time, maybe his very survival depends on 
Malfoy family, maybe Snape needs to be on Malfoys good side, maybe 
he indeed loves Narcissa, etc.
 
> > >>Alla:
> > <snip>
> > Would I call Snape noble here because he genuinely cares 
for      
> > Draco? No, sorry, not if he is willing to give Dumbledore's 
life   
> > to Voldemort on the silver platter while protecting Draco.
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> Nope, nothing noble in risking your life to save a child.  Very 
> selfish that. <g>

Alla:

If that means that Snape is willing to put the life of Dumbledore's 
potential murderer over Dumbledore's life. Sure I can see plenty of 
selfish undertones in that.

I have a problem with Dumbledore giving Draco's absolution on the 
Tower, but that I can at least see in light of religious undertones, 
etc.
Snape choosing to protect Draco while shmuck prepares Dumbledore's 
assasination ... well,yes, I would not call what Snape does  a noble 
deed exactly.

But again, it seems like we even view OFH!Snape term differently. My 
OFH!Snape can SURE care for people, if it suits him, or even 
genuinely care for them, it is just those people are the enemies of 
the side Snape supposed to be loyal to now.

Alla.