LID!Snape rides again (was: High Noon for OFH!Snape)

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 149595


> 
> > Sydney: 
> > that "he's now no more a Death Eater than I am".  
> 
> Neri:
> Even if Dumbledore had testified under oath (which we don't know for a
> fact) I doubt that this particular statement was part of his
> testimony. We know that Snape has an active dark mark, so either
> Dumbledore means here that he (Dumbledore) also has an active dark
> mark, or we must conclude that Dumbledore words (warning: big surprise
> coming) should be taken with a grain of salt.

Pippin:
The dark mark was not active when Dumbledore gave his testimony. 
Obviously Snape did rejoin the Death Eaters, at Dumbledore's request,
when Voldemort returned. 


> 
> > Sydney:
> And Harry asks him
> > in HBP, "How can you be sure Snape's on OUR side?", and D-dore says,
> > "I'm sure.  I trust Severus Snape completely".  He's saying, he's on
> > OUR side.  Meaning, yours and mine.  Our.  Side.
> 
> Neri:
> "*Your* side, because he has to save your life. *My* side, because he
> has to save *your* life". Dumbledore wouldn't consider his own life as
> part of the deal. It's Harry that matters.
<snip> 
> The Dumbledore in LID is similar to the Dumbledore in DDM in that he's
> absolutely ready to give his life for the plan. The difference is that
> the Dumbledore of LID is a more moral man. He'd never want Snape to be
> a killer. He *trusts* Snape not to be a killer,

Pippin:
You're forgetting that some versions of DDM!Snape don't consider
that Snape killed Dumbledore at all. And I'll tell you who else trusted
Severus Snape. Sirius Black went to the DoM on Snape's information.
For all he knew Snape could have been lying. 
Yet the Order agreed to go into action "at once."
No debate, no attempt to check on whether Harry wasn't safe in
bed at the time.


> > Sydney:
> Of course he's cold and angry
> > and jeering.  That's Snape's defense mechanism.  Hating Harry and
> > James is totally Snape's defense mechanism.
> 
> Neri:
> It's a defense mechanism that has never made much sense to me if Snape
> is DDM. A person has such a strong remorse about his part in making
> some boy an orphan, and he doesn't miss an opportunity to show his
> hatred to this orphan and to his dead father?

Pippin:
Hatred can coexist with love, why not with remorse? And why
shouldn't it?  Is James going to be any less dead or Harry any 
less orphaned if Snape stops hating them? I'm sure Snape believes 
that his anger and hate are what keep  him alive, that he could 
have done nothing but cower (like the woman in the pensieve) 
under the abuse he's endured, if it weren't for his anger. 

Neri:
 It hasn't been just a defense mechanism for Snape, it's been a sport.
 His favorite pastime.

Pippin:
Just as picking on Snape was both defense mechanism and sport for
James and Sirius. The cool don't like to be reminded that the uncool
exist -- Snape was, just by existing,  a scary reminder that
all that made it cool to be James Potter and Sirius Black  could be taken 
away (as indeed it was.) Harry is, just by existing, an unpleasant 
reminder of James. I don't find this unbelievable at all. 

It beats me how people can be so concerrned that Harry may never
get over what he's been through, but not understand why
Snape's wounds haven't healed. At least in Harry's case, everyone
acknowledges that Voldemort tried to kill him. But Snape suffered
a sexual assault and an assault on his life  as a teenager, and 
everyone treats it like a joke. James is made out to be a hero for
saving his life, but Snape  is not the victim of a wouldbe murderer,
he's just the guy that James and his friends made a fool of.

No wonder Snape gets hyper when the subject comes up. It
all reminds me of something that happened here in Los Angeles
a few years ago. A Buddhist temple installed a gate 
with a swastika design. In India where the gate came from
it was innocently used as a token of  good fortune, but in Los 
Angeles there were holocaust survivors 
who would have had to look at it every day. There was no way 
they could see that symbol and not be reminded of the horrors 
in their past. When the Buddhists understood that, they had the 
gate remade. Unfortunately, Harry is stuck with his face.

Pippin