Raging Snape / Draco's Redemption / JKR's Plots (was:Re: seeds of betrayal)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 149723

> Magpie:
> No, I don't think boasting is an accurate description at all.  If
> Draco was able to boast in this scene he'd be in a very different
> place.  He's trying to sound like a killer, but it's falling flat--
> he's described as seeming compelled to keep talking (confessing), 
> but we've seen boasting in the series and this isn't it.  I don't 
> even recall Draco being the one to describe these things in 
detail. 
> Not even any nasty remarks about how great it would have been had 
> Ron Weasley died.  Dumbledore describes these plots as feeble 
> attempts his heart isn't in and Draco "vehemently" insists that it 
> was, but Dumbledore really seems to be right throughout.  

a_svirn:

My dictionary says: "boast 1) speak proudly about possessions and 
accomplishments; transitive and intransitive verb, to praise 
yourself, or speak arrogantly about things you possessed or have 
achieved." That's exactly what Draco's doing. So what if he fails to 
impress Dumbledore when he speaks about things he's accomplished? He 
failed to impress Harry when he spoke about things he possessed too. 

> Magpie:
>Draco's on 
> the defensive.  The best he can come up with is, "Yeah, well, you 
> didn't figure out it was me, did you?"  (Which, of course, DD 
did.)  
> Draco's in no shape to boast in this scene.  He's not asking 
> forgiveness or expressing remorse either, of course.  But saying 
> this scene is about boasting, imo, is like saying Peter 
Pettigrew's 
> scene in the Shrieking Shack is about making amends to his friends.

a_svirn:
Erm
 I'm no more saying that this scene is about boasting than you 
are saying that it is *about* "Draco's not denying his part in what 
happened to Katie and Ron". I'm merely pointing out that Draco does 
not show any signs of regret, on the contrary – he is trying to 
impress (however unsuccessfully). 


> Magpie:
> He is deliberately aiming his gun off the mark, but he is certainly
> not dwelling on that fact.  That's what Dumbledore is describing.

a_svirn:
If he is , he lying through his teeth. Because Draco *did* aim his 
gun. He just wasn't being discriminating, but that's only making it 
worse.