When did Draco Imperius Rosmerta?

[exodusts]

No: HPFGUIDX 149787

> bboyminn:
> 
> Hummm... This really is a baffling subject. Clearly someone is 
helping
> Draco both inside and outside Hogwarts. Yet on the otherhand, Draco
> has been assigned to accomplish that task alone; quite an impossible
> and unlikely task I might add.
> 
> When Draco and Snape talk outside Slughorn's party and Draco says he
> has better people than Crabbe and Goyle helping him, that could 
really
> be the limit of his statements. In short, what he is saying is 
that 'I
> have fellow classmates who are smarter than Crabbe and Goyle helping
> me'. In otherwords, the context of that conversation is limited.
> 
> Still there are the other questions. Who Imperiused Rosmerta? Who is
> helping Draco solve the Vanishing Cabinet problems? To who and how 
is
> Draco sending and receiving information? 
> 
> I believe he does have student who are smarter that Crabbe and Goyle
> helping him, but like Crabbe and Goyle, Draco is not very 
forthcoming
> with information on the purpose of their actions. 
> 
> As far as his outside contact, it could very easily be his mother. 
She
> is always sending him 'care packages'; that has been established in
> every book. Further, they could be sending coded messages; not 
really
> that hard. I also speculate that Draco and his outside contact might
> have talking-mirrors similar to Harry and Sirius. That would create
> very fast timely communication. 
> 
> We know his mother is associated with Voldemort, and is a strong
> cooperative supportive sympathizer even if she is not a full fledged
> Death Eater; although, I suspect she probably is.
> 
> So, she Imperiused Rosmerta. She bought and delivered the necklace.
> She induced Rosmerta to produce and deliver the poisoned mead. All 
at
> Draco's request. Notice that at Snape's house, Mrs. Malfoy is 
somewhat
> desperate and borderline irrational with fear that Draco will fail.
> Despite how pathetic Draco's plans are, I suspect Mrs. Malfoy would 
go
> along with them out of desperation. 
> 
> While Mr. Malfoy is suspect, you will note that he is not without
> influence and power. For his nasty deeds of attempted murder and 
such
> in the Dept of Mysteries, Mr. Malfoy was given something like 6 
months
> or so for breaking and entering. The charges were extremely mild
> compared to his actions. He wasn't even charged by the court with
> being a Death Eater.  I suspect by the beginning, or just after, of
> the next book, Lucius will have served his time. 
> 
> My point here is that Mrs. Malfoy is not considered a criminal and 
is
> free to roam the wizard world to her heart's content. That would 
make
> it very easy for her to show up in Hogmead on various occassion for
> aledged shopping trips or whatever. Stopping by the Three 
Broomsticks
> for lunch or a drink would not be out of the ordinary. She is one of
> the few remaining Death Eaters for whom it is still safe to show her
> face in public.
> 
> Still, is that enough? Do we need a traitor on Hogwarts staff? Do we
> really need a traitor in the Order? 
> 
> The most logical Hogwart's traitor would be Slughorn. Still, I'm
> having trouble buying it. He has his faults, very Slytherin-esque
> faults, but I get no sense that he is evil or even a Voldemort
> supporter. Can't prove that of course, it's just my sense of the 
man.
> 
> As far as a traitor in the Order, many suggest Lupin, but again, I
> just can see that. Yes, he is bitter, but he seems truly sincere in
> his actions. Mundungus could inadvertantly betray the Order, but I'm
> having trouble picturing him doing it willfully and/or for personal
> gain. True he is a petty criminal, but that doesn't make him prone 
to
> evil, and it is said that he is fiercely loyal to Dumbledore. Other
> than Kingsley Shacklebolt, who I do not suspect, the remaining 
members
> of the Order are too far into the background to play any strong role
> in the story. 
> 
> Now, I could and would expect spies in the Ministry. We see time and
> time again just how corrupt that organization is. Who, I can't say,
> but certainly there are spies in the Ministry. Yet, I don't
> necessarily see them having any part in Draco's effort.
> 
> To my central point, do I believe that it IS Mrs.Malfoy who is 
helping
> Draco? Not really, it was just a thought. While I rarely have any
> shortage of wild speculation, I confess myself somewhat baffled by 
the
> whole 'Draco' situation, and suspect that this is exactly how JKR
> intended to leave us. 
> 
> For what it's worth, there it is.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn


Exodusts:

Hasn't anyone mentioned Fenrir Greyback, the family friend, as one of 
Draco's "better" assistants (and Borgin)?

P.S. Eggplant said it was insane to construct a situation where Snape 
kills DD to prove his loyalty to DD. What if DD was mortally wounded? 
But I digress. If I read one more post on Snape I will snape, I mean 
snap, and start gibbering, and chanting "Snape-is-bad-Snape-is-good-
Snape-is..." over and over again as my mantra, then tape it, play it 
backward, and listen for the message that says: "Satan is good. Satan 
is my master. I must kill. Kill all people. People must die. Satan is 
Lord." Can't you hear it? It sounds like a hissing snape, I mean 
snake, I mean snape, I mean snape...

All work and no play makes Snape a dull boy.
All work and no snape makes Snape a dull boy.
All snape and no snape makes Snape a dull boy.
All snape and no snape snapes Snape a dull boy.
All snape and no snape snapes Snape a dull snape.
All snape and no snape snapes Snape a snape snape.
All snape and no snape snapes Snape snape snape snape.
All snape and snape snape snapes Snape snape snape snape.
All snape snape snape snape snapes Snape snape snape snape.
Snape snape snape snape snape snapes Snape snape snape snape.
Snape snape snape snape snape snapes Snape snape snape snape.
Snape snape snape snape snape snap



P.P.S. Lupin is definitely NOT evil.