But DID James listen? (was LID!Snape rides again )

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> Ceridwen:
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> James already knows that Snape is a Dark Arts expert.  That was 
one 
> reason he didn't get along with him, according to Sirius.  I'm 
sure 
> there were other reasons which escalated as they went through more 
> and more years of school together, but with that one piece of 
> knowledge, there's no reason why James wouldn't at least suspect 
that 
> Snape was sympathetic with LV's cause if not actually signed on as 
a 
> DE.  And in a small population like the recent graduates of 
Hogwarts, 
> the gossip mill probably had Snape pegged as a DE from seconds 
after 
> he received the Mark.  Rumor, sure.  But believable with what 
James 
> knows of him.
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Alla:

I have not decided yet whether I agree with your argument in 
general, but I completely agree with this part- one hundred percent.

But of course, since I believe in Snape darker nature, I will go 
further and speculate that Snape indeed signed up to join Voldie and 
company when he was still in school and that is where many conflicts 
betweem him and James indeed grew. Speculation? Sure, pure 
speculation and of course we don't know when Voldemort recruited 
Snape, BUT I find it VERY interesting that Draco started his service 
when he is still in school.

It is true that we don't know whether Draco has the mark or not, but 
I think it is possible that he does have a mark and if it is so, I 
think it will be even more likely that Snape joined while still in 
Hogwarts.

 
>> Ceridwen:
> I don't think any of them are lying.  I think they're all 
> representing events as they know they happened.  I don't think we 
> know everything, though we certainly know more about this after 
> putting it together than we know about the Prank.  Things I wonder 
> about: Why did James and Lily reject Dumbledore as SK?  Why did 
James 
> think Snape came to him with advice?  And in this discussion 
> specifically, did James mention to Sirius that Snape came to him 
at 
> all about it, with or without mentioning specifics?  Was Lily an 
> active participant in the decision, or did she leave it up to 
James?  
> And as PJ brought up, whether or not it was valid from any other 
POV, 
> does Snape wonder now if James actually did take his advice?

Alla:

Those are all fascinating questions, but I must agree with Allie  
and I did wrote about it in the past - I don't think we know for 
sure that Snape DID warn James. For all we know  - Snape became 
aware that somebody else warned James about the possible spy? Maybe 
Lily told Snape that they got a warning and that is how Snape knows?

Maybe Dumbledore's OTHER spy?  But in any event, even though it is 
possible that Snape indeed warned James, one thing I am rather 
confident about - I don't see James keeping Lily out of anything, 
out of talking to Snape as Betsy said or that Lily was not an active 
participant in the decision, as you suggest. Sorry, not buying that 
at all. To me Lily's characterv screams of someone who has a takes 
charge attitude. IMO of course.

I don't think James could have kept Lily out of anything, 
personally. Speculating of course.

JMO,

Alla