Going back to discuss GOF.

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Lisa:
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> Barty Crouch Jr. - needless to say, a very troubled lad. My 
question is- is he really that 
> smart? because I don't think so. He plays an awfully good Mad Eye- 
I mean, going to all 
> that trouble to win over Harry throughout year 4, he really goes 
out of his way.  I realize he 
> wanted Harry to get to the Portkey so that his master (Voldewart) 
could get his blood, but 
> c'mon, if you really read it (as if you didn't know it was Crouch 
Jr.) you really get to like the 
> guy. I honestly don't think Crouch Jr. was capable of getting 
people to like him. I think he 
> was a loner with no sense of humor, no self-esteem. Therefore, he 
did not have the tools 
> to be that convincing.  

Alla:

LOL, Lisa. No chewing here, just thanking you. Same topics come and 
go all the time. Just look at all the talk about "you know who" ( 
NOT Voldemort :)), so even though I love to talk about "you know 
who", I sure appreciate different topics.

But I have to ask you to ellaborate more on your points about Barty. 
What do you mean he did not have the tools to be that convincing? Do 
you mean that somebody else was impersonating the impersonator? I am 
sorry, but I am really not sure about your point here.

I mean, yes, to me it looked that he indeed WAS that convincing.

Lisa:
> AND ONE MORE THING... How is it that the greatest wizard alive (at 
the time) did not have 
> any inkling whatsoever that this was a fraud? (referring to DD). 

Alla:

Hehe. You mean Dumbledore CAN make really BIG mistakes, HUGE 
mistakes as to his trust in people? Yep, I agree with you, 
Dumbledore made  MANY mistakes throughout the books. Not recognising 
this impostor is sure one of them IMO. Putting his trust in the 
wrong person could be another one. It seems that I cannot stop from 
talking about "you know who" even in this topic. :-)

 
Lisa:
> AND, OK, MY LAST AND FINAL ALL CAPS QUESTION... going forward to 
HBP: If the time-
> turner  was used to save Buckbeak and Siruis- why could it not be 
used to save the only 
> wizard that Voldesnort ever feared? wouldn't it be absolutely 
critical to go back and save 
> DD- if only for his knowledge of VM, in order to defeat him? I 
say  "Give Harry the Time 
> Turner McGonagle- let him take his Felix Felicis with him and GO 
GET DUMBLEDORE!!!"

Alla:

Oh, time travel theorists will explain it better than I can, but my 
short answer is because it never happened on the single timeline in 
the first place.

But I am ready to bet that Timeturner ( the one which was not broken 
in MoM) as we will find out :) will be used again. I love Valky's 
prediction that it will be used to travel to battle in MoM.

 
Lisa:
> Ok. I'm done. I know some of you will chew me up because one or 
all of the points I've 
> made have been discussed over and over again- but I just had to 
release.

Alla:

Thank you for starting this thread. :)