Going back to discuss GOF.

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Alla:
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> LOL, Lisa. No chewing here, just thanking you. Same topics come and 
> go all the time. Just look at all the talk about "you know who" ( 
> NOT Voldemort :)), so even though I love to talk about "you know 
> who", I sure appreciate different topics.
> 
> But I have to ask you to ellaborate more on your points about Barty. 
> What do you mean he did not have the tools to be that convincing? Do 
> you mean that somebody else was impersonating the impersonator? I am 
> sorry, but I am really not sure about your point here.
> 
> I mean, yes, to me it looked that he indeed WAS that convincing.

Lisa:
(I never seem to format my responses correctly so my apologies to the house elves)

Alla- all I meant there was that I think Barty Crouch Jr. is an idiot. I have a hard time 
believing that he knew so much about Mad Eye that he could carry on conversations with 
Dumbledore, Mr. Weasly, the other Teachers, etc. with such confidence. BCjr would have to 
have studied Mad Eye for a long long time to pick up on not only his speech, quirks, and 
accent, but his mannerisms and cliches. (Constant Vigilence!!). Think about it- if I were 
going to take some polyjuice potion to become Mad Eye, I would have to know the history 
between him and other people- like what if DD brought up a time we were kickin' back at 
the Hog's Head when a goblin came and knocked over a bar stool---

Do you see what I mean? Cuz I sure am having a hard time explaining myself!!! HA!!! 

-Lisa

> Lisa:
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> > Barty Crouch Jr. - needless to say, a very troubled lad. My 
> question is- is he really that 
> > smart? because I don't think so. He plays an awfully good Mad Eye- 
> I mean, going to all 
> > that trouble to win over Harry throughout year 4, he really goes 
> out of his way.  I realize he 
> > wanted Harry to get to the Portkey so that his master (Voldewart) 
> could get his blood, but 
> > c'mon, if you really read it (as if you didn't know it was Crouch 
> Jr.) you really get to like the 
> > guy. I honestly don't think Crouch Jr. was capable of getting 
> people to like him. I think he 
> > was a loner with no sense of humor, no self-esteem. Therefore, he 
> did not have the tools 
> > to be that convincing.  
> 
> Alla:
> 
> LOL, Lisa. No chewing here, just thanking you. Same topics come and 
> go all the time. Just look at all the talk about "you know who" ( 
> NOT Voldemort :)), so even though I love to talk about "you know 
> who", I sure appreciate different topics.
> 
> But I have to ask you to ellaborate more on your points about Barty. 
> What do you mean he did not have the tools to be that convincing? Do 
> you mean that somebody else was impersonating the impersonator? I am 
> sorry, but I am really not sure about your point here.
> 
> I mean, yes, to me it looked that he indeed WAS that convincing.
> 
> Lisa:
> > AND ONE MORE THING... How is it that the greatest wizard alive (at 
> the time) did not have 
> > any inkling whatsoever that this was a fraud? (referring to DD). 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Hehe. You mean Dumbledore CAN make really BIG mistakes, HUGE 
> mistakes as to his trust in people? Yep, I agree with you, 
> Dumbledore made  MANY mistakes throughout the books. Not recognising 
> this impostor is sure one of them IMO. Putting his trust in the 
> wrong person could be another one. It seems that I cannot stop from 
> talking about "you know who" even in this topic. :-)
> 
>  
> Lisa:
> > AND, OK, MY LAST AND FINAL ALL CAPS QUESTION... going forward to 
> HBP: If the time-
> > turner  was used to save Buckbeak and Siruis- why could it not be 
> used to save the only 
> > wizard that Voldesnort ever feared? wouldn't it be absolutely 
> critical to go back and save 
> > DD- if only for his knowledge of VM, in order to defeat him? I 
> say  "Give Harry the Time 
> > Turner McGonagle- let him take his Felix Felicis with him and GO 
> GET DUMBLEDORE!!!"
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Oh, time travel theorists will explain it better than I can, but my 
> short answer is because it never happened on the single timeline in 
> the first place.
> 
> But I am ready to bet that Timeturner ( the one which was not broken 
> in MoM) as we will find out :) will be used again. I love Valky's 
> prediction that it will be used to travel to battle in MoM.
> 
>  
> Lisa:
> > Ok. I'm done. I know some of you will chew me up because one or 
> all of the points I've 
> > made have been discussed over and over again- but I just had to 
> release.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Thank you for starting this thread. :)
>