Draco/ why HP wants to kill LV/ Fake Secret Keeper/ Personality of GinnyLily
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Mon Mar 27 04:40:20 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 150101
Carol wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/149876 :
<< Snape's sense of duty and his promise to Narcissa would lead him to
protect Draco from LV's wrath by pointing out that he fulfilled his
mission of allowing the DEs into Hogwarts and making the death of DD
possible. So, IMO, Snape will use his position as LV's most trusted
lieutenant, the man who killed Dumbledore, to save Draco from
punishment. >>
I think it would be wiser for Snape to hide Draco than to trust in his
ability to cajole LV. If he thinks LV doesn't know about the UV, he
could pretend to LV that he had killed Draco himself.
Neri wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/149959 :
<< You mean, like using the prophecy to make Harry want to kill
Voldemort? >>
It is not the prophecy that makes Harry want to kill Voldemort. Even
if Harry had never heard of the prophecy, he would want to eliminate
Voldemort because of his saving-people thing.
Remember when Harry found out about Neville's parents: " It was
Voldemort, Harry thought, staring up at the canopy of his bed in the
darkness, it all came back to Voldemort ... he was the one who had
torn these families apart, who had ruined all these lives ..." So
Harry wants to prevent more people from being hurt by Voldemort, and
the only way to do that is to eliminate Voldemort. All the prophecy
gave him was permission not to wait until finishing Auror school.
Ceridwen wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/149973 :
<< James would want to protect his friend from possible torture and
murder, and here's Snape effectively saying that Sirius is the first
suspect for SK in LV's eyes. >>
But Sirius's 'clever' plan almost *guaranteed* torture and murder for
him! As it was widely known that he was going to be the Secret Keeper,
they would let the world keep on thinking that, and Sirius would even
go into hiding to keep up the deception, so that the bad guys would
hunt for Sirius instead of the real SK, and if they caught him, they
would torture him to reveal the Secret, which he couldn't do no matter
how much he was tortured, because he wasn't really the Secret Keeper.
I think it is a flaw in that plan that Sirius could possibly have
revealed (e.g. to a Legilimens) that Peter was the Secret Keeper, and
then the bad guys could have hunted Peter, but someone said that Peter
would run away to a new hiding place as soon as Sirius vanished. Maybe
that is the real reason Sirius was 'checking on' Peter regularly: not
to check that Peter hadn't been captured, but to let Peter know that
Sirius hadn't been captured. ('Regularly' is not canon.)
Pippin wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/150028 :
<< The switch wouldn't have protected the secret from Voldemort for
long. (snip) But it might have worked as an attempt to expose the spy.
If Sirius gave the "secret" in written form to the person he
suspected, and Voldemort attacked on that information, the spy would
be revealed. >>
Stupid Catlady doesn't understand what plan are you suggesting. Sirius
should have given the real secret in Peter's writing to someone?
Sirius should have given the real secret in his own writing to someone
who wouldn't be able to read it because Sirius wasn't the real secret
keeper? Sirius should have given a fake secret in his own writing to
someone who would be able to read it because it was a fake secret?
I guess that last one kind of makes sense, give a different fake
address to each member of the Order and wait to see which fake address
is attacked. Unless there are two spies and LV notices that each one
brought him a different address which can't both be right...
Annemehr wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/150074 :
<< I feel a strong temptation to look to Ginny for clues to the
personality of Lily. :P >>
Well, in HBP we saw Ginny going down the corridor (of the train) and
hexing anyone she felt like (and getting invited to the Slug Club for
it), and that is one thing Lily accused James of in the Pensieve
memory. And we saw Ginny flying her broom straight at Zacharias (if
she'd broken her broom, would her parents have bought her a new one?),
and we haven't heard anyone accuse James of flying his broom into people.
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