Why wasnt Harry sent to either a lightsided wizarding family or a muggle fam

amiabledorsai amiabledorsai at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 28 18:07:49 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150196

Clark Kent:
  I thought I made that clear, only four people knew of his survival.
Dumbledore, Minerva, Hagrid, and Sirius.  

Amiable Dorsai:
You made it clear.  JKR did not.

She's been very cagey about telling us exactly what happened in
Godric's Hollow that night and during the subsequent 24 hours. We know
that word of Harry's survival spread quickly, very quickly—perhaps too
quickly for Sirius and Hagrid, both of whom had other things to do
than tell tales, to have been the only witnesses.

Clark Kent:
The way JKR wrote it, Voldemort  went there alone.
I don't recall any mention of him bringing Death Eaters,
otherwise they would probably have attacked Hagrid and Sirius when
they showed up.

Amiable Dorsai:
Or they would have left in a big hurry, knowing that they had just
lost the war.  The books say nothing about this: Harry's
Dementor-invoked memories don't show him anyone else, but they don't
show him Voldemort either; Harry just recalls his voice.

Clark Kent:
  Besides, if the darkest wizard of the time was killed by a baby
you would probably think, as the studets in CoS believe, that he is
destined to be a powerful wizard.  Why not mold him to your own ideals?

AD: Because they needed to: a) bug out and hide, b)establish alibis,
c)destroy evidence, or d)have panic attacks--pick as many as you like,
and lumbering themselves with a baby at that point might have been
counter-productive?  How would Dumbledore know?  Why would Dumbledore
care?  All he has to know is that there was a possibility that a Death
Eater, or someone who might tell a Death Eater, had seen Harry alive.
 If so, pretending Harry was dead would be worse than useless—the
Death Eaters would know that he was out there, somewhere, and Harry
would be deprived of the protection he gets from Petunia.

Clark Kent:
*How hard would it be to find a family that was killed, and say that
he was their orphaned son?  Hell, if you wanted to put him in the
muggle world where he could grow up in a LOVING household, he'd be a
hell of a lot safer than in the Dursleys home where the corrupt
Ministry knows where he is. *

AD: If Dumbledore just takes Harry and spirits him away without the
Ministry's knowledge, he's a felon--a kidnapper. So is Hagrid, so is
any Wizarding couple that takes him in, unless Dumbledore doesn't tell
them that he's handing them a live grenade.  Of course, if he does
that, they have no reason to take any extraordinary precautions, so
there's a fair chance they'll end up like the Longbottoms—if they're
lucky.  

Again, if there are any unaccounted witnesses, the chance that this
will blow up in Dumbledore's face, leaving him in Azkaban, and Harry
completely unprotected, is quite high--and there was at least one
witness outside of Dumbledore's control that morning: Sirius Black.

If he tries to hide Harry with the collusion of the Ministry—well, as
you say, the Ministry is corrupt.

<Snip a bunch of speculation about how "blood wards" (a term that
never appears in the books) protect Harry—I know, let's ask Dumbledore
about it.>


Amiable Dorsai: "Didn't you realize that the Dursley's were lousy
guardians?"

Albus Dumbledore: "I knew I was condemning (Harry) to ten dark and
difficult years."

Amiable Dorsai: "So why did you do it?  Are you a sadist?"

Albus Dumbledore: " My answer is that my priority was to keep (Harry)
alive. (Harry was) in more danger than perhaps anyone but I realised.
Voldemort had been vanquished hours before, but his supporters - and
many of them are almost as terrible as he - were still at large,
angry, desperate and violent. And I had to make my decision, too, with
regard to the years ahead. Did I believe that Voldemort was gone for
ever? No. I knew not whether it would be ten, twenty or fifty years
before he returned, but I was sure he would do so, and I was sure,
too, knowing him as I have done, that he would not rest until he
killed (Harry).
 
"I knew that Voldemort's knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive
than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex and powerful
protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever
returned to full power."

Amiable Dorsai: "So you put Harry in with a bunch of Muggles?  Are you
nuts?"

Albus Dumbledore: "
 I knew, too, where Voldemort was weak. And so I
made my decision. (Harry) would be protected by an ancient magic of
which he knows, which he despises, and which he has always, therefore,
underestimated - to his cost. I am speaking, of course, of the fact
that (Harry's) mother died to save (Harry). She gave (Harry) a
lingering protection he never expected, a protection that flows in
(Harry's) veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in (Harry's)
mother's blood. I delivered (Harry) to her sister, her only remaining
relative."

Amiable Dorsai:  Dammit, Dumbledore, she hates the kid
"

Albus Dumbledore: `But she took (him)
 She may have taken (him)
grudgingly, furiously, unwillingly, bitterly, yet still she took
(him), and in doing so, she sealed the charm I placed upon (him).
(His) mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest shield I
could give (him)."

Amiable Dorsai:  "Shield?  What shield?"

Albus Dumbledore: " `While (Harry) can still call home the place where
(his) mother's blood dwells, there (he) cannot be touched or harmed by
Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in (Harry) and her
sister. (Lily's)  blood became (Harry's)  refuge. (He) need(s) return
there only once a year, but as long as (Harry) can still call it home,
whilst (he) are there (Voldemort) cannot hurt (him)

Amiable Dorsai:  So the "shield" protects Harry from Voldemort's
machinations (presumably, since Dumbledore also needed to protect
Harry from stray Death Eaters, that includes his servants'
machinations) when Harry is in the place where his "mother's blood
dwells."  Dumbledore is pretty ambiguous about what "place" means,
exactly. Is it just #4 Privet Drive?  Little Whinging?  Surrey? England?

Since Dumbledore did not warn Harry to stay in the house after the
Tri-Wizard, we can deduce that the "place where his mother's blood
dwells" includes more than just #4.  Yeah, Dumbledore set a guard
there, but Mrs Figg implies that the guard is there to keep Harry out
of trouble with the Ministry.  

I think the shield failed to protect Harry from the Dementors, because
Umbridge sent them, not Voldemort.   

Amiable Dorsai








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