Why wasnt Harry sent to either a lightsided wizarding family or a muggle fam

Clark Kent clark.kentjr at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 03:28:10 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150168

bboyminn:

>  It would have been too much of a coincidence for
> Harry to disappear one day, and for some non-pregnant family to have a
> new baby the next.

Clark Kent:
 I thought I made that clear, only four people knew of his survival.
Dumbledore, Minerva, Hagrid, and Sirius.  The way JKR wrote it, Voldemort
went there alone.  I don't recall any mention of him bringing Death Eaters,
otherwise they would probably have attacked Hagrid and Sirius when they
showed up.  Besides, if the darkest wizard of the time was killed by a baby
you would probably think, as the students in CoS believe, that he is
destined to be a powerful wizard.  Why not mold him to your own ideals?

How many children do you think had their parents killed during the war?  To
quote HPL "*The Death Eaters use the Unforgivable Curses and the years of
his ascent to power are marked by disappearances, deaths, torture, terror
and atrocities in both the wizarding and Muggle worlds."

*How hard would it be to find a family that was killed, and say that he was
their orphaned son?  Hell, if you wanted to put him in the muggle world
where he could grow up in a LOVING household, he'd be a hell of a lot safer
than in the Dursleys home where the corrupt Ministry knows where he is. *
*
bboymin:
>Yes, you can take precautions and build a cover story, but that is
> just what they did with Harry living in the muggle world, yet, in his
> early life, wizards like Dedalus Diggle were able to find him.


Which is why I asked who the idiot was that gave out his description to the
public.  How is it that everybody in the wizarding world knows about Harry's
scar before he shows up to Hogwarts when nobody has survived the curse
before and only four people knew of it?

> Next, regardless of the presence of his Godfather, Petunia is > > > Harry's
> nearest living relative and that gives her some legal priority in
> determining Harry's disposition. Likely, if challenged in a /fair/
> court; Petunia would have gotten custody.


We've never  heard the Potters' will , but I would be willing to bet that in
the event of their death Lily and James would want to send Harry to his
Godfather rather than a sister that despises her and (she would assume)
Harry because of their ability to perform magic.

bboyminn:
>
> Well, let us look at the 'Blood Wards' as you call them. First,
> Dumbldedore clearly says that the protection of 'blood' was the
> strongest protection that he could give Harry. Now listen carefully;
> as long as Harry is in the /place/ where his mother's blood dwells,
> there he can not be harmed.

> He can not be attacked or harmed by anyone intent on doing him harm.
> Whether that person or persons are Voldemort, his death eaters, random
> fanatics, or the Ministry itself. No one can truly harm him while he
> is at the Dursley.


Except for the beatings Dudley and his 'gang' gave him and whatever the
Dursleys did to him both emotionally and physically (She tried hitting him
in the head with a frying pan in OoTP, I doubt that was the first time he
was hit/almost hit, not to mention the malnourishment and practical
enslavement), other children who would doubtlessly have bullied him for fear
of Dudley.

>You mention the Basiliks and assorted other people who acted against
> Harry in the books, implying that Harry didn't seem very well
> protected by the 'Blood Wards'. Yet you will notice that Harry escaped
> from every enemy he faced. Who's to say the 'blood wards' were not
> responsible?
>

Fawkes saved Harry after the Basilisk bit him, his blood protection
apparently wasn't enough to stop the venom.  The same with the Dementors
when he was AT the Dursleys.  The reason he survived was the Patronus, the
same as all the other times he was in contact with them.  Nothing seemed to
be special about this encounter versus any of the other encounters, and
compared to other people he's even more susceptible to their effects, which
if the Blood protect did work you would think he'd have a higher resistance
than others, no matter his past (and how much do YOU remember about your
first year of life?).

>The second level of Blood Protection, is the additional protection
> that Dumbledore put on Harry, to protect him while he is at the
> Dursley; the /place/ where his mother's blood dwells. So, the place,
> that house, is a safe haven for Harry. Until the blood charm expires,
> Harry can always retreat to that house, and there he can not be harm.
> Voldemort himself says that he can't touch Harry while Harry is at the
> Dursley's; more protect by Dumbledore than Harry can possibly realize.
>
> Now, we don't know the nature of that "Place where his mother's blood
> dwells' protection. We don't know how it would manifest itself if it
> were ever called on. Would it act like the Fidelus Charm, hiding the
> house? Would it act like Protego Shield Charm and rebound or repell
> any attack? Would it act like the Patronus Charm and sent out Avatars
> to defend Harry and the house? We don't know. All we know is that
> while Harry is at the location, he is absolutely safe.


We DON'T know that,  he has been attacked in (by his "family") and around
(by those blasted dementoids!) the house, and no protection has been shown.

Since we don't know how the Blood Protection Charm works, we, also,
> can not determine with certainy, it's boundaries. It is limited to the
> house, or is it limited to any and all land that the Dursley's own? Is
> it concentrated on that one place, and gradually diminishing as you
> move away, or does it end at the boundary of the property? What if
> Harry is with the Durselys, which would imply under their protection,
> but none of them are on Dursley owned property, say they are at the
> shopping mall, is Harry still fully protect, limited protection, or no
> protection? We can speculate, but with out further information, which
> I believe we will have in the next book, we can't really say.
>
> None the less, it seems that Harry's protection at Privet Drive is
> absolute.


If, as you presume, Harry is untouchable at the Dursleys, why not set him up
with a private tutor there so that he is absolutely safe and yet still has
the knowledge to defeat Voldemort?  If it is supposed to work outside the
Dursleys' as well, why immobilize him in HBP when he would be untouchable
and none of the death eaters would be able to harm him?  Why not create a
portkey Harry could use anytime he's in trouble to take him back to the
Dursleys where nobody could harm him?

>Further still, we have evidence that the Ministry is closely
> monitoring the Dursley's in case any illegal magical activity should
> occur there. That close monitoring would serve as an early warning to
> the Ministry should there be an attack on Harry.


As was shown in OoTP, the Ministry is corrupt.  If Lucius truly wanted to,
how much of a problem do you think it'd be to find out where Harry lived
when he had Fudge in his pocket?

>That combine level of absolute and secondary protection could not be
> offerred to Harry under any other circumstances. Dumbledore clearly
> says that the 'Protection of Blood' is the strongest protection that
> Dumbledore could devise.


Of course it could have been offered, and the solution is simple...Nobody is
going to target a dead man.  Who is going to be more of a target, Harry
Potter, boy who lived, defeater of Voldemort, only person to survive AK
spell or Harry Longbottom, Harry Diggory, etc who would just be another
orphan from Voldemort's reign of terror?  Harry and his parents went into
hiding once he was born, so I doubt many people would've known about his
green eyes and untameable hair, which seem to be the strongest resemblance
he has to his parents.  It would've been easy for him to disappear, even if
he was going to stay in the relatively small wizarding world.

Clark Kent







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