Maligning Lupin

[Sherry]

No: HPFGUIDX 150283

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
>
> Christina:
> 
> I agree that Lupin and Sirius's shared look is a "how much do we tell
> him?" look.  I just don't believe that it is necessary to presume any
> extra information is being shared - there is a lot of information that
> Order members know that Harry does not.
> 
> Pippin:
> Arthur and Bill are also at the table, but they're not included
> in the look, which makes it seem to me that they're not included
> in the information that Sirius and Lupin are agreeing not to share.
> Otherwise wouldn't they need a warning glance as well? 
> 
Amontillada:
Two thoughts come to my mind:
1) Sirius and Lupin are longtime close friends, nearly brothers. At
this time, Lupin seems to be staying with at 12 Grimmauld Place when
his Order missions don't require him to be elsewhere. Members of the
Order, especially Molly (See #2) have discussed what to tell Harry,
and Sirius and Lupin have probably talked about at length in private
as well. The glance says "This is what we've been discussing."

2) Just as they've discussed the topic between themselves, they think
it likely that Molly has discussed it with Arthur and possibly Bill.
Sirius hasn't discussed it one-on-one with Molly's husband and son. 

> 
> 
> Pippin:
> If Sirius was told that the purpose of the secrecy was to keep the
> DE's from using  Harry to go after the prophecy, he would think
> there was no need for secrecy any more.
> 
> Christina:
> ...I find it tough to think of a reason for Lupin to give to Sirius
to keep him from talking to DD about the prophecy
> 
> Pippin:
>  "Dumbledore doesn't think I should tell you this but..."

Amontillada:
And soon after that: "Lupin told me this...Why have you been keeping
this secret from me? Surely you know how much I care about Harry!"
 
> 
> Christina:
> 
> There really *are* people out there who are not passionate people.  It
> isn't denying somebody "the full range of human emotion" to describe
> that attribute in a character.  It's a character trait.  
> 
> Pippin:
> I'm afraid your disagreement is with Jo:
> 
> "It's not possible to live with the Dursleys and not hate them,"
> said Harry. "I'd like to see you try it." -- CoS ch 11
> 
Amontillada:
There's a wide range of ways to handle emotions like anger and hatred.
Harry may hate the Dursleys, but he's certainly had to swallow his
anger and hide it inside himself on many occasions. And he still comes
to the defense of Dudley in OoP, when he couldhave simply left him to
the Dementors.

> 
> Christina:
> 
> I see that as just going to show that even somebody as fair-minded as
> Hermione has deeply hidden prejudices.  Does Hermione really know
> anything about the last war? 
> 
> Pippin:
> She's read "Modern Magical History", "The Rise and Fall of
> the Dark Arts" and "Great Wizarding Events of the Twentieth
> Century." (PS/SS ch 6)
> 
Amontillada
All written by members of the Wizarding World, most of whom said "LV"
under their breaths. We know that VERY few witches or wizards thought
it was important to improve relations with magical folks like Giants
and Gnomes, who had taken Voldemort's side the first time. Most
magical folk, including those who remember the last war, were
desperate to deny LV's return, so I doubt they were ready to question
their other prejudices.

Amontillada,
who can't bear the idea of Lupin turning against the good