[HPforGrownups] Re: Sportsmanship/legitimacy

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 151974

Alla:

If you show me the canon that other champions knew for sure that
other hostages were not in danger then yes, I would agree with you
that they did not have to save other hostages. Otherwise, I
disagree, I don't think that Cedric and Victor deliberately bandoned
the hostages, they just were concentrated on the "GAME" and IMO  did
not look at the big picture. They did not go as FAR as Harry did in
this particular situation. Does it mean that I think that in this
situation they did not show as much of "moral fiber" as Harry did?

Yes, I think so.

Magpie:
We have Ron laughing at the idea that Harry thought the hostages were in 
danger, and also laughing at the idea that the judges decided it was showing 
moral character. The merpeople, iirc, are laughing at Harry when he's trying 
to save the other hostages.  We've also got the fact that the hostages 
weren't really in danger. Why should the other players have to prove they 
weren't completely confused about what was going on just because Harry was?

Now Cedric and Krum are under suspicion of seeing people in danger and not 
doing anything to help them because they only cared about getting points in 
a game.  That's a completely unfair slur on their character--and a pretty 
huge slur it is, too.  Does Cedric Diggory really seem like the kind of guy 
who would not care about a little girl's life because he only cares about 
winning?  Isn't this the same kid who gave Harry the hint about the egg 
because he thought it would only be fair?

Joe:
  They either knew that the other hostages weren't in danger or they didn't 
care. If they knew then they had outside knowledge. They could have also 
just not given any thought to the other hostages. I think the latter is the 
case.  The fact that Harry did something extraordinary and was rewarded for 
it does not cast slurs on any of the others.

Magpie:
Why would they need outside knowledge to not assume child sacrifice is part 
of the game? You seem to be saying it doesn't cast any slurs on their 
character; they either had suspicious outside knowledge or they just didn't 
care about a bunch of people dying.  Sounds like a slur to me, one I've 
never even heard suggested until this thread focusing on Harry's moral fibre 
points.

-m