second task points

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 152017

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at ...> wrote:
>
> I looked up the points for the second task.  (GoF ch 26)
<SNIP go UPTHREAD to red the points count)
>> Which leads us to...How Did They Judge?
<SNIP>
> If we assume that Krum lost, say 9 points for being late, and 1 
point 
> for his incomplete transfiguration (and that is only a guess- we 
know 
> he lost 10 somewhere, but exactly where is certainly up to 
> interpretation), then Harry, without "moral fibre" points would 
have 
> probably gotten somewhere between 35 and 39.  He ended up with 45, 
> which means that about 6 to 10 points out of 45 were for moral 
fibre.
> 
> It seems to me that Harry is getting bad press for being late, 
when, 
> in fact, they were all late, if they arrived at all.  
> 
> I don't think in something this subjective, 6-10 points for moral 
> fibre is that out of line.  Had he not shown it, he would have 
> arrived before the time was up.  They had no negative comments 
about 
> any other part of his performance, so he would probably have 
gotten 
> the full 50.  In other words, moral fibre cost him 5 points, but 
not 
> the full 11-16 that being late would have cost him had he not had 
a 
> good reason for being late.  


Alla:

Brilliant analysis, Ginger, simply brilliant. The only thing I want 
to add is to speculate that Krum may have lost points not only for 
his incomplete transfiguration, but for possible failure to retrieve 
a hostage.

Harry ( or narrator through Harry) observes that Krum's transfigured 
teeth are too awkwardly positioned to cut Hermione's robes and Harry 
worries that Krum can cut Hermione in half instead.
Krum actually gets HELP from Harry here which he does not refuse ( 
that means to me that Harry's observation is correct and Krum 
realises that without help he is not in a good position to free 
Hermione.

If mermpeople observed that too, another possible reason for Krum to 
lose points and another extra-reason for Harry to get those 
few "moral fiber" points and maybe some for resourcefullness too?


Here is the canon:

"The shark-man swam straight to Hermione and began snapping and 
biting at her ropes; the trouble was that Krum's new teeth were 
positioned very awkwardly  for biting anything smaller than a 
dolphin, and Harry was quite sure that if Krum wasn't careful, he 
was going to rip Hermione in half. Darting forward, Harry hit Krum 
hard on the shoulder  and held up the jagged stone. Krum seized it, 
and began to cut Hermione free. Within seconds, he had done it; he 
grabbed Hermione around the waist, and without a backward glance, 
began to rise rapidly with her towards the glance" - GoF, paperback, 
p.501.

So, yeah, my another two cents :)

JMO,

Alla.