second task points

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 152023

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at ...> wrote:
<snip>
> Harry did the first part well, battled the grindielows (I assume 
both 
> of the other boys did as well as Harry) and got his hostage back to 
> the surface.  I assume Harry got full points for the first part and 
> any that were given to the other boys for getting to the hostages.  
> He also got points for returning with his hostage, as did the other 
> guys, even though they were all outside of the time limit.
> 
> If we assume that Krum lost, say 9 points for being late, and 1 
point 
> for his incomplete transfiguration (and that is only a guess- we 
know 
> he lost 10 somewhere, but exactly where is certainly up to 
> interpretation), then Harry, without "moral fibre" points would 
have 
> probably gotten somewhere between 35 and 39.  He ended up with 45, 
> which means that about 6 to 10 points out of 45 were for moral 
fibre.
 
Hickengruendler:

Here is the quote, and something that's IMO pretty important:

" "Most of the judges" - and here Bagman gave Karkaroff a very nasty 
look - feel that this shows moral fiber and merits full marks. 
However ... Mr Potter's score is fourty-five points" "

IMO, this indicates that the judges marked the same way they did 
after the first task, namely that everyone gave their points and in 
the end the points were just added together. Based on Bagman's words 
and gestures I assume that Dumbledore, Bagman, Percy and Madame 
Maxime all gave Harry 10 points and Karkaroff gave 5. Which means 
that if it weren't for Karkaroff, Harry would have gotten full marks. 
Seeing that even the morally ambigous characters Percy and Bagman 
agreed with this (even though Bagman had ulterior motives), and only 
evil Karkaroff didn't want to give him full marks, I assume that it 
is JKR's opinion, that he deserved the full marks for his decision. I 
think it is very arguable, if he deserved it, because I still 
consider it very stupid, that he honestly thought the judges would 
let the hostages die like that.  

Hickengruendler