Snape, Apologies, and Redemption--Lupin vs. DD

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No: HPFGUIDX 152396

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "leslie41" <leslie41 at ...> wrote:
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> 
> Leslie41:
> 
> That's fallacious reasoning.  It's a non-sequitur.  It doesn't 
> necessarily follow that if these issues aren't dealt with that DD 
> finds the abuse of children "good and noble" and "worthwhile."

Of course it does, IMO.  We are not dealing with just anyone here, 
after all (although just anyone would have a lot to answer for).  
Rather, we are dealing with "the epitome of goodness," the "very wise 
man" who "knows everything that goes on at Hogwarts."  Pretty 
damning, if you ask me.


> 
> But of course it is.  Especially since what the Marauders do to 
> Snape, or attempt to do, is far, far, worse than ANYTHING that 
Snape 
> has ever done to his students.  

I guess my answer to that would be, NOPE, what was done to Snape was 
most certainly NOT, IMO, in the same league with what he does to his 
students.  The difference in position of authority between Snape and 
Harry, IMO, magnifies Snape's actions far out of the league of 
whatever was done to teenage Snape by the Marauders.


> 
> Snape was 15 once, too.  He was humiliated, and then nearly killed, 
> and neither Lupin nor DD held Sirius and James accountable.  
> (Certainly Black wasn't expelled, which one might expect when one 
> student attempts to murder another.)  Black even became a valued 
> member of the Order.  
> 

I think this is absolutely and totally irrelevent.  Nothing that was 
done to Snape, by omission or commission, in any way excuses his 
abuse of Harry and Neville or IN ANY WAY releases him from punishment 
for that reprehensible abuse.  Nor does it in any way lessen 
Dumbledore's fault in allowing the abuse to take place and continue.


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