The Dome Effect in GOF

[Deb]

No: HPFGUIDX 152570

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gelite67" <gelite67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> When Harry's wand locked with LV's wand in the graveyard, they 
> produced a golden, dome shaped web that separated Harry and LV 
from 
> the DEs.
> 
> LV then orders the DEs to "do nothing."
> 
> Several things I've never understood about this scene.
> 
> First, was this "dome effect" part of the Priori Incantatem b/c 
Harry 
> and LV?  The effect itself was only described as "rare" and as 
> forcing one of the wands to reveal the brother wand's prior 
spells. 
> Nothing about any protective domes. 

Deb here:
 I went back and read the scene again and it seems to me that the 
dome effect might be partly because it is Fawkes' tail feathers in 
Harry and LV's wands and partly because of the spells that were 
being thrown when their power streams connected. Harry had been 
hiding behind a headstone but resolved to "die upright like his 
father and he was going to die trying to defend himself, even if no 
defence was possible". He came out from behind the headstone and "As 
Harry shouted, "Expelliarmus" Voldemort cried, "Avada Kedavra". The 
red jet from Harry's wand and the green jet from LV's wand meet in 
midair then the wands start to vibrate and the beam of light 
connecting the wands changes to "bright, deep gold" - like the color 
of some of Fawkes feathers. So Harry's spell is to "expell" - trying 
to rid LV of his wand. And LV's spell is to "die" or "kill". I think 
the dome may have come from Harry's previous positive connection to 
Fawkes through his loyalty to DD. Fawkes was already DD's when he 
gave the feathers for the two wands so the protectiveness toward 
anyone loyal to DD might have been imbued in the feathers. When the 
wands connect the struggle to send those beads of light down the 
golden strand is to see which spell takes prescedence and Harry is 
the mentally stronger combatant at that moment because he is able to 
force the bead down to LV's wand. So the "expell" takes prescedence 
and it becomes a Priori Incantatem effect as Harry's spell causes 
LV's wand to 'expell" it's prior spells. (LOL that's rather 
convoluted - did you follow all that?) The "normal" PI spell that we 
saw for example earlier in GOF when Mr Diggory does it to Harry's 
wand after the Dark Mark appeared at the Quiddich Cup match just has 
the wizard putting his wand tip against the tip of the "suspect" 
wand and roaring (per canon) "Priori Incantato" to disgorge the 
previous spell done by that wand. So I think the PI effect we see in 
this scene was not the same exactly as the PI spell but was very 
similar to it.     I wonder if a-the effect would have been 
different if Harry had shouted a different spell and b- what would 
have happened if LV had been stronger and had forced the bead of 
light into Harry's wand.       

Angie: 
> Second, if this is part of the PI effect, was is unique to Harry 
and 
> LV or would it have occurred b/w any two wizards whose wands came 
> from the same phoenix?  And by the same phoenix, I don't mean 
Fawkes, 
> I just mean any "same" phoenix?  

Deb here:
  It might be that a similar effect would be produced if there was 
the same degree of connection between the phoenix and one of the 
combatants plus the same degree of animosity between the two 
combatants.  It might be a normal reaction for brother phoenix 
feathers when they fight against each other but we have no canon on 
that

Angie:
> Third, if the dome effect is not part of the PI spell, then what 
> caused it?  It's clearly related to Fawkes b/c Harry heard/felt 
the 
> phoenix's song emanating from the dome.  He felt the song inside 
of  
> him, which he connected with DD, and felt as though a friend was 
> whispering in his ear, "Don't break the connection."  GOF, U.S 
> softcover at 664.

Deb here: 
  Again I think it was because of Harry's connection to Fawkes 
through DD - but this may have been a unique occurrence. DD tells 
Harry and Severus at the end of GOF that when brother wands are 
forced to do battle against each other "a rare effect will take 
place. One of the wands will force the other to regurgitate spells 
it has performed - in reverse...." The previous spell for Harry had 
been "Stupify"(as far as I can tell from canon) when he and Cedric 
stunned the huge spider in the maze. If LV had forced the bead down 
to Harry's wand that is what would have come out first. DD doesn't 
give any information about the dome effect though.   
  
(Snip)
Angie:
> Finally, could the DEs have done anything if LV had wanted them 
too?  
> I don't think they could have, but I don't really have anything to 
> support that, other than the protection of the dome would have 
been 
> pretty futile of it could have been broken from the outside.

I agree there is probably not much they could have done though they 
might have distracted the combatants by trying.  
> Angie (wishing everyone a happy Saturday)

Deb (aka djklaugh)