DD death

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 152680

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "logistis_20" <logistis_20 at ...>
wrote:
>
> DD was the strongest wizard of the century. He made many mistakes
> but till his death he was trusting Severus. He was the person 
> who killed him. But why? He was the person who said the prophecy
> to LV. So why he  trust him?
> 
> I can not understand him.
> 
> I want to believe that DD would like to die like that. I want to 
> believe that DD was so badly heart from the ring that he should 
> die in that way.
> 
> But not! I can not believe it.
> 
> Why he should die like that? And why LV he want so badly to kill
> DD?
> 
> And the biggest question - who is RAB and what is the middle name
> of Sirius' brother?
> 
> Please forgive my English.
> 
> "logistis_20"

bboyminn:

As to why Dumbledore trusted Snape...well, that is one of the greatest
mysteries of the series. We can speculate and the books have given us
hints, but always the true explanation is hidden from us. 

I don't believe that Dumbledore faked his death. Certainly that was
the most dangerous, unlikely, and unreliable circumsance. If
Dumbledore truly was plotting to fake his own death, he could have
come up with a better plan than one involving Death Eater cooperation,
Death Eaters in the castle endangering innocent students, and a most
unlikely timing. So, I'm not buying any suggestions that the whole
thing was an elaborate plan by Dumbledore to fake his death; too
unrealistic.

I do worry about the injury to Dumbledore's hand. Harry says several
times that the hand looks dead. Dumbledore, as good as, said he would
have been dead from the Cursed Ring if Snape hadn't prevented it. But,
regardless of Snape's effort and certainly Madame Pomphry's too,
Dumbledore's hand has not been cured. 

I suspect Snape only slowed the curse, and the 'dead hand' was
gradually creeping up Dumbledore's arm, and once it got to his chest
and his heart, or his brain, Dumbledore was dead anyway. Of course, I
can't prove that, but it is suspicious that no one in the wizard world
was able to repair Dumbledore's hand. 

So, in a sense, Snape knew he was killing a man who was nearly dead
anyway. Further, there had been a delay in getting medical assistance
to Dumbledore after he drank the potion from the cave. It may have
already been to late to undo the effects of that potions. Dumbledore
was very weak and appeared to be fading.

I suspect Snape and Dumbledore used Dumbledore's impending death to
their advantage. Snape is not absolutely and indisputable Voldemort's
most trusted friend, since Snape got rid of Voldemort's greatest enemy
and greatest threat. 

Now, let's consider that maybe Dumbledore's 'faked' death was not part
of an elaborate plan, but was simply a reaction to the moment; a way
to save the day. What plot purpose does it serve? In the end, Harry
must 'go it alone', that is the genre, that is the standard theme for
the hero, to be stripped of all his resources and to have to face his
greatest enemy alone and unaided by his greatest protectors. 

What is Dumbledore going to do, reappear at the last minute and save
Harry? That's kind of anti-climactic. We had Harry built up as the
hero in 6 books only to have Dumbledore swoop in at the end, and
snatch Harry's victory from him? Doesn't seem likely. So, how and
under what circumstances does Dumbledore's fake death serve the plot
and the story? I can't see it.

If Dumbledore appears after the final defeat of Voldemort, I think
Harry is going to feel a little betrayed. Here Dumbledore is off on a
vacation, and Harry is left to fight alone. It's nice because the
story ends with Dumbledore alive, but it doesn't seem pleasant from
Harry's perspective. 

So, for now, until the last book proves otherwise, I think Dumbledore
was already dying. Snape was backed into a corner and forced to either
fight with great casualties and a very likely poor outcome, or he has
to kill Dumbledore knowing that in doing so, even under the best of
circumstances, he will be hated by the wizard world for all time. Yet,
doing so gives Snape and the wizard world a strategic advantage. It's
the kind of decision that is made all the time in war, you sacrifice
the lives of many if in the long run it gives you an advantage that
allows you to win.

So, no great conspiricy, just Snape and Dumbledore reacting to the
moment and accepting the inevitable actions that needed to be taken to
achieve the best possible outcome from a strategic perspective.
Dumbledore is a casualty of war. Snape is a victim of war. Yet, the
hope is that, in the long run, their actions will lead to the defeat
of Voldemort. 

So, lacking any acceptable explanation and strategic advantage for how
and why Dumbledore would fake his death, I have to assume he really is
dead. However, as many have pointed out, we still have Dumbledore's
protrait.

Just one man's opinion.

Steve/bboyminn