DD death

[zanooda2]

No: HPFGUIDX 152684

> Adzuroth:

<SNIP>

> There's much more to DD's so-called death scene than
> meets the eye.  Has there ever been another instance where pumping a
> ton of emotions into an unforgivable curse resulted in an additional
> effect on top of its intended result?  As far as I know the answer is
> no.  If you hit someone with the killing curse, they simply fell over
> dead as opposed to getting knocked backwards over a battlement.


We just don't have enough evidence to prove you right or wrong. Does,
as you put it, "pumping a ton of emotions" into AK change the way it
works? We don't know, because all the AKs that we witness in the books
are pretty unemotional:

1. Fake Moody vs. spider - no emotion, just a demonstration.
2. Wormtail vs. Cedric -  nothing personal.
3. Bellatrix vs. fox (we don't hear the words, but looks like AK) -
just in case.
4. LV vs. Frank Bryce - no emotion, the Muggle is just a nuisance.

Did I forget something? Anyway, the only AK that doesn't fit here
(except for Snape's) is the curse that LV killed his father and
grandparents with. I suppose there should be some emotion there, but
from the description it seems more like an "unemotional" AK. OTOH, who
knows with LV? Maybe he acted not so much out of anger, but more out
of desire to destroy the people who were living proof of his impure blood.

Some time ago I wrote about how some spells (Stunning and Disarming)
in certain circumstances do more then they are supposed to. That post
got lost, and I was too lazy to rewrite it. I still have all the
quotes, but again , I'm too lazy to write all of it now. In short, the
spell is usually "overdone" when several people use it at the same
time, but sometimes there is only one caster who sends an opponent
flying with Expelliarmus or Stupefy. Maybe AK works the same way.


> Chrus:
> The curse pushes you back, as for Sirius in OotP, and thus DD fell 
> down.
 


This is supposed to back my previous statement, but, unfortunately,
this example is not correct, IMO. I don't think Sirius was killed by
AK. The spell is described as a jet of red light, not green , like AK.
I believe it was a Stunning spell or something else, and Sirius was
not killed by it, he just fell through the veil. The spell didn't kill
him, the veil did, IMO.


> Najwa:

> But the death scene is a
> strange one, so instead of looking at it like he begged snape to 
> kill
> him because he was tired of living, I say that snape was hesitating
> and Dumbledore was somehow telepathically telling him that he needed
> to kill him, because of the unbreakable vow and because he needed to
> stay on as a double agent, and not die because he broke his word to
> narcissa. do you see what i'm getting at? When he said "severus
> please..." i do not think he was begging for snape to save his life
> either.



Yeah, DD trusted Snape and didn't have any reason to beg for life
before Snape even showed his intentions. If "Severus, please" came
AFTER Snape pointed his wand at DD, it would have made sense, but not
BEFORE Snape demonstrated any hostility. 

  zanooda