Hagrid and Snape: Was Snape, Apologies, and Redemption
horridporrid03
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Tue May 23 18:41:52 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 152744
> >>Lupinlore:
> <snip>
> There is a tendency for things to balance out in the great scheme
> of things, and the harshness with which mean people are judged is
> what they are due.
Betsy Hp:
So, in the end, life is fair? I recall a character from another
story-verse saying something to the effect of: "I take great comfort
from the fact that life is not fair. Imagine if we actually
deserved all the horrible things that happen to us!" Myself, I'd
rather think that Harry is a good kid, overall, and doesn't actually
deserve to lose all of his loved ones as he has. <g>
> >>Lupinlore:
> Niceness, on the other hand, does get its reward in the great
> balance wheel of things. And getting passes is part of it. So
> yes, Hagrid gets a pass for his poor teaching. And Lupin gets a
> pass for his problems.
Betsy Hp:
Hagrid has lost all of his students, and Lupin is unemployed. How
are they getting passes?
> >>Lupinlore:
> Snape, on the other hand, most certainly does NOT get
> a pass for his abusive methods, no matter how effective they might
> be.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Snape is a respected teacher and manages to land his dream job. How
is he not getting a pass? (He also becomes a Head of House at a
remarkably young age. Which may explain his strictness in the
classroom, actually.)
> >>Magpie:
> But clearly he does get a pass by many people, because different
> people have different priorities. It depends on what an individual
> person finds the most annoying or the most important. If it were
> as clearcut as nice people getting a pass and mean people not
> getting a pass, Snape wouldn't have so many fans, and everyone
> would agree on the character. Hagrid really doesn't get much of a
> pass on his teaching--less than Snape does in many ways, imo.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
The interesting thing this raises, IMO, is how does one
define "nice"? I guess "polite" is the popular definition, but
doesn't this give Snape a clear-cut reason for giving Draco a pass
but not Harry? After all, Draco is very polite (nice) to Snape, and
Harry is most definitely not. With Hagrid, we see Hagrid being very
nice to Harry but not very nice to Draco. So we see Harry giving
Hagrid a pass, while Draco judges Hagrid more harshly.
What's the correct form of judgement here? Should Fudge give the
opinions of nice (to him) Lucius Malfoy more weight than the not so
nice (to him) Albus Dumbledore or Arthur Weasley?
It could be argued that the non-questioning, non-judgmental Crabbe
and Goyle are nicer to Draco than the not as easily controlled Ron
and Hermione are to Harry. Does this mean Draco has the better
henchmen?
Betsy Hp
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