Scary Teachers - Good Teachers (was: Re: Hagrid and Snape...)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 152909

> > Alla:
>  
> > Okay, maybe it is not full blown compliment, but IMO it is a 
truthful 
> > assesment meaning to inspire such.
> 
> a_svirn:
> Oh? Then what's wrong with the Snape's comment? He stated that in 
his 
> considered opinion everyone (Neville included) could scrape a pass 
> grade. Surely a confidence boost of no common order.
>

Alla:

Well, there is one thing which is certainly wrong with Snape comment 
in my opinion. Calling class moronic and then saying that they could 
scrape a pass grade does not exactly comparable in my book with 
saying that there is nothing wrong with your work except the lack of 
confidence.

Look, I am honestly having trouble explaining why I accept 
Mcgonagall's words as positive and only positive.

Maybe because when someone tells me that my work is good, it is just 
that I lack confidence, what I get from that saying is that my work 
is indeed GOOD, it is just my demeanor when I do it, needs to be 
more assertive, meaning that I CAN achieve results and am achieving 
it, it is just I need to put on better show for ourside world.

Uh, you have to know me in RL to get what I am saying and I am just 
extrapolating that maybe Neville has the same reaction.

But you are really arguing with me over semantics, I think. On the 
substantive level I completely agree with you. Mcgonagall treated 
Neville very badly, no question about it.

The only reason why I stop short of calling it abuse is because in 
my opinion Mcgonagall would have done it to anybody who lost the 
passwords for example.
She does not say at first that Neville you did it, she is asking who 
did it basically and then proceeds with her talk.

I think she should not have done it, I think that she was VERY 
wrong, but do I think that she would have done it to ANY student?

YES, and that I think what makes her better teacher then Sape among 
other things.

But again, let me repeat, I think she mistreated Neville several 
times. 

Neri" <nkafkafi at ...> wrote:
<SNIP of the brilliant post>
> Overall, I get the quite consistent impression that the average 
NEWT
> class numbers 25-28 students, and the potions class is unusually 
small.


Alla:

Oh, Neri Bravo. Your post goes into my "very favorite posts of all 
time" folder. Sounds like Snape indeed did not produce amasing NEWT 
results to me :-)

JMO,

Alla