Nice vs. Good, honesty, and Snape/Book 7 predictions and Harry's fate

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 152973

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Snape conjured stretchers to deliver unconscious Sirius to 
Dementors. 
> 
> Potioncat:
> The Dementors were gone. Snape conjured stretchers to deliver 
> unconscious people to the Hospital Wing. One of them would be 
delivered 
> to the court system. Snape has every reason at this point to 
believe 
> Black was guilty. At any rate, he was still a fugitive.

Alla:

Snape was delivering Black to Dementors, NOT to court system, not to 
have a trial. He knew that Black would be kissed pretty much right 
away, unless I am really misremembering stuff, which is entirely 
possible.

And sure, Snape had every reason to believe that Black was guilty, 
although I just as Nora does find the refusal of Snape to listen to 
the modicum of reason from the man begging to hear him out to be 
delightfully ironic since we know that Snape is on the second chance 
from Dumbledore himself.


Potioncat:
> Sirius did not conjure a stretcher for an unconscious Snape and in 
> fact, allowed him to receive a few more injuries on the way back 
toward 
> the grounds.
> 
> So, if Sirius is a better person for not pretending to be nice, 
what 
> does that say for Snape when he doesn't pretend?

Alla:

Actually I did not say that Sirius is a better person for not 
pretending to be nice. I think 
they BOTH treated each other in a very bad way. I do take an 
objection to calling Snape's behaviour here nice though.


Potioncat: 
> I would say you've found an example of Black, who is good is also 
not 
> nice. Actually, Black does a pretty good job of not being nice 
> throughout PoA...and OoP too.

Alla:

Black just escaped from hell after being there for twelve years. I'd 
say he has a very good excuse of being not completely sane here.

Snape spent twelve years having a normal life, which IMO cannot be 
compared at all with spending time near dementors. And I'd say that 
even in PoA the moment Black has a chance to breath freely, sort of, 
he shows the signs that he does care about people - he gives Ron an 
owl. I thought it was a VERY kind jesture and the fact that half-
crazy ex-convict remembered that he hurt Ron and IMO felt bad about 
it, that tells me that Sirius still had kindness in him, even after 
those twelve years.


Potioncat:
 Sirius and Severus, once again, two sides 
> of the same coin.
>

Alla:

Of course, they are similar in many aspects, they have an ugly past, 
they can both hold grudges, etc. That I agree with.

Alla