Nice vs. Good, honesty, and Snape/Book 7 predictions and Harry's fate

[leslie41]

No: HPFGUIDX 152975

Lots of discussion on Snape today!  And I've been gone since dawn 
and just came back! Many of Lanval's concerns have already been 
addressed by other posters, very well I think...so I'm just getting 
the tail end of things.  Anyway,

> Alla:
> 
> Snape was delivering Black to Dementors, NOT to court system, not 
> to have a trial. He knew that Black would be kissed pretty much 
> right away, unless I am really misremembering stuff, which is 
> entirely possible.

Leslie41:
And what is the alternative?  What would Flitwick done?  Or anyone 
else?  Black is already been convicted and sentenced.  

He is the equivalent, in the Wizarding world, of Osama Bin Laden, 
pretty much.  
> 
> And sure, Snape had every reason to believe that Black was guilty, 
> although I just as Nora does find the refusal of Snape to listen 
> to the modicum of reason from the man begging to hear him out to 
> be delightfully ironic since we know that Snape is on the second 
> chance from Dumbledore himself.

Leslie41:
Er, remember that Snape, while under the invisibility cloak, had 
just heard this man "begging to be heard out" state that he wasn't 
sorry about the prank, and it served Snape right.

Um, I might agree with you if Snape had heard Black say "I've been 
thinking about Snape while I was in Azkaban, and I don't think I 
treated him very well while we were in school.  I'm sorry about 
that."

So, in what universe should Snape, or anyone else be expected to 
hear Black out after that or give him a "second chance"?  

The unreasonable Snape hate is understandable, really it is, but 
it's not LOGICAL when one considers what goes on in the books.     

> Alla:
> 
> Actually I did not say that Sirius is a better person for not 
> pretending to be nice. I think they BOTH treated each other in a 
> very bad way. I do take an 
> objection to calling Snape's behaviour here nice though.

Leslie41:
Well, of course you do.  Because, as has been pointed out, 
everything "nice," "good," or "compassionate" that Snape does is 
explained away somehow as being part of Snape's "duty," and 
therefore it doesn't count somehow.

Geez.

> Alla:
> 
> Black just escaped from hell after being there for twelve years. 
> I'd say he has a very good excuse of being not completely sane 
> here.

Leslie41:
Of course he does.  You don't like Snape so there's no excuse for 
what he does.  You like Black so you'll make excuses for him.

Very human, but again, not logical.