Scary Teachers - Good Teachers (was: Re: Hagrid and Snape...)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 153047

> Neri:
<SNIP>
> And notably, the narrator *was* consistent in showing Draco
sucking up
> to the teacher. Just five minutes into his first assignment in the
> NEWT class he tried sucking up to Slughorn. If the narrator can be
> bothered with foreshadowing and aftershadowing Draco sucking up in
> potions, surely she can also be bothered with showing he's good at
it?

Alla:

Hehe. Me too, Neri, me too. :-)

> > Betsy Hp:
> > Really?  I'd love some sort of canon on that.  Because I don't
> > recall a time where some massive change occured at Hogwarts and
> > Harry was clueless, Ron was clueless, and even more importantly,
> > *Hermione* was clueless, but all the other Hogwarts students of
> > their class knew exactly what was going on.
>
> Neri:
> Don't you exaggerate a bit with the "massive change"? However, if
you
> really need canon for clueless Ron and Harry, well gee, where to
> begin? Here's one typical example:
>
<SNIP of the example of Clueless Harry and Ron, go UPTHREAD to read
it>

Alla:

Well, mine is not exactly an example of Harry not knowing everything
that whole school knows, but it is certainly an example of Harry
with all his "personal Dumbledore's connections" knowing
significantly less than Malfoy does.

"A gleeful smile spread across Malfoy's pale face.
"Don't tell me you don't know?" he said delightefully. "You've got a
father and a brother at the ministry and you don't even know? My
god, my father told me about it ages ago... heard it from Cornelius
Fudge. But then, father is always associated with the top people at
the ministry" - GoF, p.169, paperback.

I mean not that I ever doubted that Malfoy's connections allow him
to be much more in on a lot of important information than Harry, but
it also IMO shows that a lot of kids ( or at least some) whose
parents are connected with the ministry knew about Tournament much
earlier than either Harry or Ron did.


> Magpie:
<SNIP>
>> Draco sneers at the idea that "some people got Ds" on their 
practice 
> OWL and laughs at Harry being in remedial Potions. 

Alla:

That would fit just as well with Draco getting an EE, IMO, since it 
is still so much better than D and Draco can sneer too,


 > Magpie:
<SNIP>
> I have a hard time imagining Snape's 
> favorite can't pull an O on the OWL. Draco's being competent in 
his 
> subject is more likely to fuel the favoritism rather than the 
> favoritism fueling his grades. 

Alla:

Why? You don't think that especially in light of close relationships 
Snape has with Malfoy family as we see in HBP, Snape favors Draco 
for the reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with his grades, 
but have everything to do with his close relationship with Malfoys, 
not vice versa?

Now, Mcgonagall obviously favors Hermione for the reasons that have 
everything to do with her grades, IMO. I see no signs of Draco good 
work in Potions an especially in light of HBP I think that his 
favoritism is just that - favoritism and the most unfair brand of 
such, IMO.

One accident of Malfoy doing well in Potions, just one is enough for 
me to show that he indeed knows the subject. I do not remember any.

JMO,

Alla, who loved Neri's post once again.