Harry not a Horcrux

Geoff Bannister gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk
Mon Nov 6 07:39:22 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 161045

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Lana" <unicornspride at ...> wrote:

> All this talk of Harry being a Horcrux is strange to me..  I thought a Horcrux was created 
with intent??  Am I wrong in this thought.  Can a Horcrux be created without the person 
knowing his soul is being transferred?  I was under the impression that LV had to create it 
on purpose.  I do not believe that LV intentionally would have made the scar or Harry 
himself a horcrux.  He was never in possession of Harry after the fact, so..  for all 
purposes in my eyes, it is not even possible that Harry or any part of him is a Horcrux.  LV 
would not have had the power to do it after the attack as he was powerless at that time.

Does this make sense?

Geoff:
I have always maintained that I do not believe that Harry is a Horcrux 
and here reiterate some of my thinking on the subject.

We are told by Slughorn that a Horcrux is created, "by an act of evil – the
supreme act of evil. By committing murder. Killing rips the soul
apart. The wizard intent upon creating a Horcrux would use the damage
to his advantage: he would encase the torn portion" (HBP "Horcruxes"
p.465 UK edition)

Now, considering Harry as a possible Horcrux, it has been suggested
that it could have happened at Godric's Hollow. Passing beyond this
for a moment. I think on the other occasions when Voldemort and Harry
were close together, the conditions for creating a Horcrux did not
obtain. At the end of Philosopher's Stone, the question has been
raised as to whether Quirrell died because of Harry's attack or
Voldemort's withdrawal from his possession. Whatever the cause,
Voldemort was in disembodied form and was not able to wield a wand.
One the next occasion when they met directly at the end of Goblet of
Fire, it was Peter Pettigrew who actually murdered Cedric; at that
point in time, Voldemort was again in no state to use a wand. Later
in the face off, he was more intent on killing Harry than doing
anything else to him. And in the last encounter at the Ministry of
Magic, Voldemort did not murder anyone, although he tried to hit
Harry with an Avada Kedavra.

Dumbledore comments on Voldemort's progress in HBP:
"However, if my calculations are correct, Voldemort was still at
least one Horcrux short of his goal of six when he entered your
parents' house with the intention of killing you. He seems to have
reserved the process of making Horcruxes for particularly significant
deaths. You would certainly have been that. He believed that in
killing you, he was destroying the danger the prophecy had outlined.
He believed he was making himself invincible. I am sure he was
intending to make his final Horcrux with your death." (HBP "Horcruxes"
p.473 UK edition)

So, if there had been a chance to make Harry into a Horcrux, it would
have had to be at Godric's Hollow. But it would seem that Voldemort
was obsessed in destroying the person he saw as his most dangerous
opponent. I agree that on this occasion he did commit murder twice
but I believe that his intentions were then directed to killing Harry
and that he did not give any thought to making him a Horcux. As this
point, those he had created were all encased in "objects" and the
thought that he could create a living fragment case may not have
occurred to him.

I cannot subscribe to the idea that a Horcrux could be created
accidentally. This is not mixing the wrong ingredients for a potion
and creating something new and unexpected. The spells for a Horcrux
must be very specific and powerful. I do not think that in the sudden
turmoil of the backfire and personal disembodiment which would have
been disorientating, to say the least, that Voldemort would have been
able to do anything further in the way of casting spells and I see
Lily's protection – whatever form it did take – saving his life and
nothing else.









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