Snape's true love
wynnleaf
fairwynn at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 6 19:51:45 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161089
> > wynnleaf
> > It's possible that it's a combination of reasons for hatred and
> that
> > it is somewhat mirrored by Harry's reasons for hating Snape.
> >
> > Snape and James hated each other from 1st year at Hogwarts.
<big
> snip>>
> > Similarly, Harry hates Snape from 1st year on. Snape saves
Harry's
> > life, but Harry refuses to feel the slightest gratitude for it --
> > blaming Snape's action on the fact that Snape perhaps had to in
> order
> > to fulfill a life-debt, or maybe just to keep Dumbledore happy
with
> > him. Harry continues to hate Snape.
>
> Alla:
>
> Harry does not blame Snape's action on the life-debt, Dumbledore
> tells Harry that this is why Snape saved his life. Of course Harry
is
> going to listen to him, IMO.
wynnleaf,
It is true that we aren't directly told what Harry thinks of Snape
saving his life. However, since he certainly isn't "grateful" I
assume he must think *something* about it. So I was mostly
speculating that Harry feels that Snape *had* to save him and
therefore his action requires no gratitude.
>
> wynnleaf:
>
> <SNIP>
> > Snape has gone a step further by extending his hatred to James'
son
> > Harry. But I wouldn't be surprised that if Snape had a son
Harry's
> > age, Harry would hate him, too -- just because I think their
> hatreds
> > are so alike.
>
> Alla:
>
> I would be surprised if Harry will be capable of such despicable
> thing as hating innocent child. Harry already does not hate Draco
> Malfoy, while not having any tender feelings for Lucius IMO.
>
> I think that Harry would have made an effort to not blame Snape
Jr.
> for the sins of his father. IMO of course.
wynnleaf,
I agree that an adult Harry might not transfer his hatred of Snape
onto a child. But I *do* think teenage Harry could transfer his
hatred of an adult onto that adult's child. After all, even with
adults who he does not personally hate (Death Eaters), he is
completely able to believe other children are likely murderous
solely because they are the children of "racists" and use "racist"
remarks. He didn't even know the parents were Death Eaters. So,
yes, I could see Harry hating a teenage kid of Snape's if one had
existed, mainly because he hated Snape, especially if said son
looked similar to Snape.
> wynnleaf:
> <SNIP>
> I expect Harry
> > to have to deal with his hatred of a living, breathing Snape --
not
> > the sacrificial dead body. I have no guesses on whether or not
JKR
> > will have Snape deal with his own hatred, but I'm certain she'll
> have
> > Harry deal with it.
>
> Alla:
>
> In other words what I hear you saying is that you expect Harry to
> realise that he was wrong, wrong, wrong towards Snape, but Snape
> should be spared any such thing and should be alowed to merily go
> forward *alive* without realising that he was wrong about Harry?
>
> Keeping my fingers crossed that this is not going to happen. Sorry.
>
wynnleaf,
Why be sorry? I don't want it to happen that way either. Why did
you "hear me saying" that "Snape should be spared any such thing?"
I certainly never said that, did I? What I said was that I don't
know if JKR will have Snape deal with his own hatred. In fact, I
hope she does have him change his views of Harry and deal with that
hatred. I don't blame Snape for hating James (at least based on
what JKR has shown us thus far), but I would like to see Snape get
over his hatred of Harry.
But since Harry is the main character, and he's the one who's
supposed to have love as his power that Voldemort "knows not of,"
then I am fairly certain JKR will want Harry to get over his hatreds
before she lets him destroy Voldemort. I don't know whether she'll
do that with Snape or not. But my not having any strong feeling
about what JKR will do about Snape's hatred isn't the same as a
belief that Snape *shouldn't* deal with his hatred.
wynnleaf
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