Snape's teaching moments was CHAPDISC: HBP24, Sectumsempra, #12

rtbthw_mom dossett at lds.net
Thu Nov 9 02:37:29 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 161306

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at ...>
wrote:
>
> Carol asked:
> > 12. Harry apparently feels only anger and resentment as he undergoes 
> > his detention, with no thought of the reasons why Snape assigned it.
> > What has happened to Harry's horror and remorse? Has he forgotten
> his
> > own wrongdoing? What, if anything, might Snape have done to make
> this
> > detention (and its sequels) more effective?
> 
> Zgirnius:
> I think the only thing that could have made the detentions more
effective is
> if they were not assigned by or supervised by Snape. 
> Harry has simply reached a point where he has not respect for Snape's
> authority as a teacher, at all, even when he knows himself to be in the
> wrong.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Sherry now:
> 
> I actually think it is much simpler even than that, though yes, I agree,
> Harry has no respect for Snape by now.  However, I think shoving his
> father's detentions in his face, and having it be Snape doing that in
> particular is why Harry shows no remorse and resents the detentions
instead.
> I don't think the way to get to him, to make him think about his
actions is
> to force him to read all that stuff about his dad and Sirius.  I
think it
> would have the exact reverse effect and would make him feel more
defensive
> of his dad.  I know that's how I would react.  I could criticize my
dad, but
> by god, no outsider--in particular one who hated him--had better do
it!  I
> think Harry was truly upset by what happened to Draco, but I think
nearly
> any other type of detention would have had more impact on him than this.
> Again, it's another indication that Snape has no clue how to handle
Harry or
> what will get to him in a positive way.  Everything he does only
adds to the
> resentment and widens the gulf between them.
> 
> Sherry
>

now Pat:

I mostly agree with both zgirnius and Sherry, but since Snape's
farewell to Harry (post-tower) was obviously a teaching moment, I have
wondered if there was something that Harry could have learned in this
or not.  Maybe I'm really over-reaching here, because I haven't been
able to come up with anything.  Does anyone have any ideas as to what,
if anything, Harry could have learned?

~Pat  






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