JKR and the boys
amanitamuscaria1
saraandra at saraandra.plus.com
Wed Nov 15 09:21:57 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 161545
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Miles" <miles at ...> wrote:
>
> After watching the PoA film again, I stumbled about a scene quite
at the
> beginning that is not in the book. It's the scene where the boys
have fun in
> the dormitory, imitating animals and having a small pillow fight
afterwards.
<snip> AmanitaMuscaria now - Agreed, that was a scene that
contributed and broadened understanding of the characters, unlike
some of the movie contamination.
> Harry is... well, let's say "unprepared" and not very clever with
girls. We
> have an insight in his thoughts, but this doesn't make the
situation more
> clear. His desires seem to come from a dark place in himself that
he is
> unaware of.
AM again - Well, I can't imagine Harry (or Dudley, for that matter)
would have got much insight or help with his emotions and identifying
them. Anything that wasn't basic obeying of commands seems to have
been treated by the Dursleys as frightening and dangerous. ("I won't
blow the house up, honest!" But they never believed him .. I'm
paraphrasing here) I suspect Harry has taken that to mean any
emotions are frightening and dangerous.
> He has very few friends, and he seems not to be interested in
students apart
> from those who are his friends. This is shown differently in the
films, by
> the way.
> What makes this situation unrealistic IMO is Harry's past until he
came to
> Hogwarts. He had a very hard time not only at the Dursley's, but at
> elementary school as well. A person being bullied so much will most
probably
> develop good knowledge of human nature - especially a bright boy
like Harry.
> It's vital for him to understand people and to "read their minds"
in order
> to find out who will harm him and who will not.
AM again - Another way of responding to such treatment is to be
completely confused by people, to not understand their motivations at
all, and thus to become resigned to people reacting in ways that you
cannot possibly foresee. So Harry doesn't tell people things, because
he can't predict their reactions. He doesn't open up to possible
friends, because they may not be friends. He isn't socially clued up
because he wasn't socialised from ages 1-11. Same with the emotions,
he has very little information to work with.
I find the reactions and actions pretty believable, if you accept his
past as true. And because of that, I don't find it strange that there
isn't more student life description, as we're seeing it all from
Harry's POV, mostly, and he can't be an accurate reporter as he
hasn't the social skills to be so.
Cheers, AmanitaMuscaria
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