Freedom for House-Elves (Was: Kreacher the Plot Device Elf)
horridporrid03
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Tue Nov 28 01:52:38 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162054
> >>Ceridwen responded:
> > <snip>
> > But, the situation exists. Harry, without asking for it, got
> > Kreacher willed to him. He now has one of two options: give
> > Kreacher clothes, or not give him clothes.
> > <snip>
> > House elves bring another layer of responsibility to their
> > owners. Elves' natures, whether charmed or inborn, mean they want
> > to serve wizards and witches. They fear freedom, from what I get
> > from the books.
> > <snip>
> >>Carol:
> I agree, and I think a-svirn has conceded the fear of freedom in
> another post. It seems to be the word "responsibility" that's
> causin problems here.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
IMO, I think it's more what encompasses Harry's responsibility. From
what I'm understanding, both you and Ceridwen seem to feel that
Kreacher's mental well-being is dependent upon Harry giving him
chores. It doesn't matter if the particular assignment forces
Kreacher to betray a family he loves (spying on Draco), as long as
Kreacher is busy.
Frankly, I don't understand that view point. I'm not sure what canon
you all are drawing on. I don't recall Kreacher ever complaining
about a lack of work.
The way I see it, Kreacher starts off as a prisoner of war. He is
bound by the house-elf enchantments to the enemy. Harry has made
sure that he cannot escape, and he's humanely given him food and
shelter (which I agree is a good thing).
But then Harry (or JKR?) makes the odd decision of having Harry
behave not as someone responsible for a prisoner of war. Harry
becomes a slave owner in every sense. He assigns Kreacher a task
Kreacher does not want but has no choice but to do. That's not Harry
acting responsibly. It's Harry acting as a normal wizard of the WW
who owns a house-elf.
> >>Carol, simply arguing that if Harry *must* be a slave owner, he
> ought to be a responsible one
Betsy Hp:
I'm just not sure why Harry needs to take on the role of slave
owner. Wouldn't a guard for a prisoner of war be enough? And a tiny
bit more noble?
Betsy Hp
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