More thoughts on the Cloak

[abergoat]

No: HPFGUIDX 158959

Carol wrote:

> You've ignored my point about the chains on the chair binding Barty
> Jr. ("the chained boy") as they bound Karkaroff but did not bind Ludo
> Bagman (or Harry in OoP).

Abergoat responds:
I didn't mean to ignore anything - but I don't view how Barty was
chained to mean anything other than he did not have powerful friends,
unlike Ludo. Just because Stan Stunpike is in jail doesn't make him
guilty, so just because Barty was in chains and Ludo wasn't doesn't
make Barty guilty and Ludo innocent.

Carol wrote:
 And Bellatrix, who would never credit
> someone who wasn't a loyal DE with helping her to find Voldemort and
> torture the Longbottoms, says "We alone were faithful. The Dark Lord
> will reward us above all others" (quoted from memory). "We" seems to
> include not only the Lestrange brothers but Barty Jr. If Barty 
> weren't one of the people who accompanied her and helped her torture 
> the Longbottoms, surely she would have excluded him from her claim
> to "glory."

Aberogoat writes:
I see it differently. I see Bella thinking it was a badge of honor to
go to jail for having been a Death Eater. She wouldn't give Barty's
innocence of the Longbottoms crime a second thought. He was a Death
Eater and he shouldn't be wimpering about innocence, he should go to
jail proud of what his 'leader' stood for.

Abergoat