Dumbledore Does Lie (Re: What turned Snape)

[dungrollin]

No: HPFGUIDX 158983

> > Dung:
> > A year (or whatever) later, when Snape returns to DD to convince 
> him that he's really genuinely not on Voldy's side any more, DD 
> says "ok you can spy for me, but first we've got to do something 
about your appallingly amateurish ability to lie. Now close your 
eyes and empty your mind..."
> 
> Potioncat:
> The only problem with this part is that Snape would have had to be 
an Occlumens already. I doubt he could have survived while he was 
> learning Occlumency from DD. LV would have picked it up just like 
> Snape did with Draco.
>

Dungrollin:
Not necessarily, since the timing of Snape's conversion is still 
up in the air.

We know that Snape was teaching Potions at Hogwarts before Voldy 
fell, and we know that it was Voldy himself who sent him to try to 
secure the DADA job so that he could spy on DD.

At the time of the prophecy, I reckon DD must have realised that 
Snape was a DE, even if nobody else did (and apparently nobody else 
*did*). I think DD was unlikely to give Snape a job knowing that he 
was a spy, I think the potions job came at the same time as his 
conversion.

Which would have given Snape a good excuse to not visit Voldy while 
he was honing his Occlumency skills. (Got to stay at Hogwarts to 
keep his cover.) In fact, he may not even have seen Voldy between 
his decision to turn spy for DD and the graveyard after Voldy's 
rebirth, over a decade later. So the DE Voldy sent to spy on DD and 
the double agent Voldy was running throughout OotP and HBP could 
have been very different people.

Just saying it's possible, that's all.

Dung.