Dumbledore Does Lie (Re: What turned Snape)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 158993


> Dungrollin:
> Not necessarily, since the timing of Snape's conversion is still 
> up in the air.
> 
> We know that Snape was teaching Potions at Hogwarts before Voldy 
> fell, and we know that it was Voldy himself who sent him to try to 
> secure the DADA job so that he could spy on DD.
> 
> At the time of the prophecy, I reckon DD must have realised that 
> Snape was a DE, even if nobody else did (and apparently nobody else 
> *did*). I think DD was unlikely to give Snape a job knowing that he 
> was a spy, I think the potions job came at the same time as his 
> conversion.
> 
> Which would have given Snape a good excuse to not visit Voldy while 
> he was honing his Occlumency skills. (Got to stay at Hogwarts to 
> keep his cover.) In fact, he may not even have seen Voldy between 
> his decision to turn spy for DD and the graveyard after Voldy's 
> rebirth, over a decade later. So the DE Voldy sent to spy on DD and 
> the double agent Voldy was running throughout OotP and HBP could 
> have been very different people.
> 
> Just saying it's possible, that's all.
> 
> Dung.
>
Carol responds:
I agree that Dumbledore taught Snape Occlumency (or helped him refine
Occlumency skills he already possessed so that he could become a
"superb Occlumens" rather than an ordinary on), but I disagree that he
became a spy for Dumbledore at the same time he became a teacher. The
spying must have come first, beginning at about the time that Snape
found out "how Voldemort interpreted the Prophecy" and that LV
intended to come after either one or two innocent babies (and their
parents). Otherwise, young Snape could not have spied on Voldemort "at
great personal risk." He had to be outside of Hogwarts, risking his
very life among the DEs for that statement to make sense. Once he was
Potions master, the risk was greatly diminished and spying on the DEs
and LV was impossible. He was supposed to be spying on *Dumbledore*
for LV.

Carol, again stating her view that one reason Dumbledore hired young
Snape as Potions Master (but not for the cursed DADA position) was for
Snape's own protection, pulling him out of the dangerous role as spy,
through which he had already proved his loyalty and courage)