Dumbledore Does Lie (Re: What turned Snape)

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No: HPFGUIDX 159051

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mcrudele78 at ...> wrote:
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> I just think that JKR was trying to send a message with the 
> difference between DD's explanation and ST's reveal. JKR may be 
> indefinite about some of her other minor points, but do you really 
> think she was being casual about Snape overhearing "The prophesy"? 
> This was *the* penultimate reveal of the entire series, IMO. She's 
> not going to approach the *what happened* casually and when she 
> slips in this anomaly between the two versions, it wasn't an 
> accident and it wasn't a *I-can explain-that* moment. It means 
> something.
> 
> Let me be clear here. IMO Dumbledore lies to protect Snape. If 
> Voldemort ever knew that Snape heard none or all of the prophesy, 
> but only reported the first two sentences, Snape - dead man! Even 
if 
> you want to say that DD was only protecting Snape's identity as 
the 
> eavesdropper from Harry in OotP, now that Snape is going into deep 
> cover close to Voldemort is not the time for DD to tell anyone the 
> true story, especially Harry.
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Quick_Silver:
Is it even safe to assume that Trelawney or Snape even have the 
right memories of that event? HBP is full of people getting their 
memories modified so that they have a different version of events 
that actually happened (Morfin, Horkey). Dumbledore could easily 
have altered Trelawney's memory which would also explain why he 
keeps her in the castle...we were told in GoF that memory charms can 
be broken. Or maybe Dumbledore tried to modify Snape's memory, and 
Snape, because of his budding Occlumency skills was able to partly 
resist the attempt (resulting in only part of the prophecy reaching 
Voldemort). Although I suppose Snape's memory couldn't have been 
modified because Voldemort could detect that (or would he write it 
off as a result of Occlumency)?

It's interesting that I get the impression from foreshadowing and JK 
quotes that we might be seeing Aberforth Dumbledore in the last 
book. Is he the only remaining person that remembers what truly went 
down that night or does he have a memory from his brother to give to 
Harry?

Quick_Silver