The Statute of Secrecy

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 159143

> Mike:
>There is none 
> AKAIK and it appears that DD has very much shared his plans with 
the 
> Order. They are guarding the DoM entrances and I'm sure DD has 
told 
> them why they are doing this. BTW, all of the Order members sure 
> seem to know what's going on re the after dinner talk at 12 GP in 
Ch 
> six of OotP. They are trying awfully hard to fill Harry in without 
> saying too much.

a_svirn:
No one in the order knew why they were guarding the Prophesy.  They 
didn't know what the prophesy is about. We know it because 
Dumbledore specially warned Harry not to disclose this information 
to anyone including the members of order. We also know that no one 
had known why he placed Harry at the Dursleys. When McGonagall asked 
he lied to her. We know that no one in the order has a clue about 
horcruxes. In other words, we know -- and it's canon --  that when 
it comes to something really important, even crucial, the phoenixes 
leave the "business of knowing" to Dumbledore. Or Dumbledore keeps 
the "business of knowing" to himself. It comes to the same thing. 
Yes, I acknowledged – quite openly – that Snape's case is special, 
but it looks like with Dumbledore every case is special and all 
information is privileged. 

> Mike:
> This is intellectually dishonest. <snip>> 
> IMO you depiction of a dictatorial DD is unwarranted and 
unfounded. 
> Being the leader and director of the Order required him to take 
> certain decisions upon himself. But you have no support for your 
> position that he doesn't open up the floor for debate during 
> meetings. 

a_svirn:
IMO your rudeness is unwarranted and uncalled for. As for the 
debates at the meetings, whatever they were about  the most 
important things – like Dumbledore's plans for Harry, the horcruxes, 
the reason behind all that "guarding duty" weren't discussed there. 
(As well, as why he trusted Snape.) In Dumbledore's opinion the 
members of the order weren't entitled to know the most important 
stuff. 


> Mike:
> But 
> more importantly, Mrs. Cole is at the end of her rope trying to 
deal 
> with Tom. She has neither the means nor the knowledge to deal with 
> him and DD very well knew this would be the case. He is there to 
> present what is the most logical solution, take Tom to Hogwarts 
and 
> teach him to control his magic and to become a proper wizard. To 
> suggest that Mrs. Cole could have come to this conclusion, that 
she 
> should know that young wizards should be enrolled in a school of 
> magic, is preposterous.

a_svirn:
Indeed it is. That why I never suggested it. 

> Mike:
> Well, maybe your opinion as a Muggle is that "we can all handle 
it" <snip>

a_svirn:
And you are representing wizards on this list, I take it?