LV, Nagini and Harry

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No: HPFGUIDX 159159

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sridharj_ap"
<sherlocksridhar at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was rereading OOP and was struck by a question I couldn't
answer.
> A quick search here revealed some discussions which only increased
> my curiosity further, so I thought I would ask it anyway. Why is
> Harry able to "see" only when LV possesses Nagini? Otherwise, he
is
> only able to feel LV's mood (again, only if it is intense).

Harry saw through Voldemort's eyes and had Voldemort visions at
other times that were not through Nagini - at the begining of GoF,
Harry saw the babymort that killed Frank Bryce and he was seeing
through Voldemort, the use of the cruciatus curse on one of the
D.E.'s (Rookwood?).

The attack on Mr. Weasley was seen through Nagini's eyes specfically
(as Dumbledore says) because "that is where Voldemort was at the
time" - he was possessing Nagini. Harry was merely seeing through
Voldemort's eyes what Voldemort was seeing through Nagini's eyes.

It seems that Harry gets the waves of really intense emotion from
Voldemort at any time, but he only gets the "visions" when he is
sufficiently relaxed - very tired and deeply asleep.

> Is it somehow related to the fact that Harry can understand
> Parseltongue?

I don't think so - other than the fact that both the "visions" and
Harry's ability to speak parseltongue are as a result of whatever
connection to Voldemort exists because of that scar. (Whatever power
Voldemort transferred to Harry gave Harry both the ability to see
into Voldemort's mind and the ability to speak parseltongue.)

> Another related question is if Nagini is a young Basilisk, but
that
> somehow does not fit in. If Nagini is one, then biting Arthur
should
> have killed him, since the bite was severe and there was a
> considerable time before Arthur was in St. Mungo's.

Correct - not to mention that Nagini's stare would be lethal.
Voldemort would have dead D.E. bodies all over the place. She's not
a Basilisk I don't think.

> Any answers/theories/opinions?

I do have a theory! Although this is about the LV, Nagini and Harry
connection, it shoots off in a different direction with regard to
Nagini:

I personally think that Dumbledore is mistaken - Nagini is not a
Horcrux at all, although she and Voldemort are quite close.
Voldemort gained his rudimentary body through a spell or potion
of "his own design" that included (amonst other things) the venom
provided by Nagini. Remember - Voldemort was having Peter milk her
and feed it to him well before the murder of Frank Bryce.

Maybe - and this is so icky and strange - that Voldemort having been
somewhat "nursed" by Nagini, the relationship between the two is
now like that of a mother and child. (Gag)

Now, although Voldemort had gained a rudimentary body (babymort) and
was strong enough to commit a murder (Frank Bryce) I don't know that
he necessarily was strong enough at that point to even make a
horcrux. (Although there is no evidence either way.)

Also - Dumbledore felt that Voldemort reserved the process of making
Horcruxes for significant murders. Frank Bryce, as far as I can
tell, held no significance to Voldemort.

Finally - Voldemort doesn't seem to me to be the type to compromise
on his plans. Ever. He planned (we think) to create his final
horcrux using Harry's murder and some unknown object (perhaps an
item belonging to one of the founders.)

Voldemort has been absolutely set on killing Harry himself
throughout the series. He would not let the Death Eaters do it in
the graveyard, the Death Eaters seems to be giving off the vibe that
THEY were not to kill Harry in the DoM and Snape specifically
said "Leave him! Potter belongs to the Dark Lord!" (Which does not
necessarily mean Snape is "good" or "bad" - because he could still
be either.)

I believe that Voldemort still wants to kill Harry for the same
reason he always has; he sees Harry as a threat because of what he
knows of the prophecy AND he wants to kill Harry himself because he
wants to make that final Horcrux.

Now, it's likely that he did not have Nagini at the time of the
original attack on Harry at Godric's Hollow, but he may have had
another object - and he either still has it and intends to make it a
Horcrux when Harry is killed OR the object has since been lost -
recovered from the cottage by Merlin-knows-who and VOldemort no
longer has access to it. Perhaps in this case, he would make Nagini
a Horcrux - but only upon his murder of Harry.

He did have Nagini in the graveyard after all, and he was telling
her "just a little longer" and planned to let her eat Harry.
(disgusting, I know.) Not that eating him would have made her a
Horcrux in any way - I just think it was an little something extra
he wanted to do one he killed Harry and made Nagini that Horcrux.

In summary - I think Harry's job gets a little easier in book 7 as I
think there is one less horcrux out there to deal with - as Nagini
is just a big old snake that perhaps thinks of Voldemort as one of
her children.

Sorry this is so long!


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