[HPforGrownups] Re: Houseelves loyalty

[Jordan Abel]

No: HPFGUIDX 159780

> a_svirn:
> The quotations above show that Dobby is bound to the family, rather
> than to the house as a place. Granted, the first quote is somewhat
> ambiguous, yet still Dobby indicates that he's bound to a family.
>
> Also, there is the fact that house-elves are slaves to all intends
> and purposes. Slaves are personal property rather than real estate
> (as serfs for instance).

A distinction that, however smart she is, Hermione might not get (or
might not care about) at 12. And besides, slavery is a more outrageous
accusation, and she wants to get support for spew. sorry,
ess-pee-ee-doubleyou (smart as she is, she also doesn't seem to get
that if you don't want people pronouncing your organization's name,
you shouldn't have it spell something). For that matter, slaves
haven't been any kind of property in the muggle world for over a
century, since property is defined by law and slavery is illegal.

> a_svirn:
> The test was based on the fact that Kreacher was part of the
> inheritance that's all.

But what if he got the Kreacher part of the inheritance but not the
house? I think it's evident that that _could not_ have happened
because they're inseparable. They were checking to see if he had
inherited the house, and seeing if he can order Kreacher around is not
useful for that unless he is (legally) part of the house.

> It would be tricky to scan the whole place
> for any known jinx and course, that would prevent am *impure*blood
> to inherit it, but it was easy to test Kreacher.

But if not inheriting the house wouldn't automatically prevent him
inheriting Kreacher, the test is useless and dangerous to rely on.

> a_svirn:
> I'd say it's dangerous in any case. But Kreacher was probably a
> primarly concern for Dumbledore.

No, the primary concern was that the OOTP's wards (unplottable,
fidelius, etc) hinged on the consent of the owner of the property,
and/or would not work against the owner. And wasn't it demonstrated
that Kreacher was still capable of passing information despite being
owned by an OOTP member?

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Random832