Teaching Styles / Sorting Hat

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 16 17:27:53 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159791

Alla:
> 
> Erm, I think many areas in Hogwarts would be slight exaggeration,
> IMO of course. In **all** classes where Neville is treated not
> abusively he does well. Charmes and of course Herbology are examples
> at hand. Oh, and No, I do not think Minerva treated him well either,
> but at least she learned and changed, that is what I consider just
> as AD does to be the mark of Good teacher.
> 
> And I am not sure I can equate Harry getting an E in Potions in OWL
> with any teaching ability of Snape, because it is made quite clear
> that Snape was not breathing down Harry neck at the exam, I think
> that Harry learned **despite** Snape not thanks to him and if Snape
> did not carry his vendetta against James to Harry, I wonder how much
> **more** Harry would have learned. IMO of course. <snip>

Carol responds:
Do you have any evidence that Neville does well in, say, COMC or
History of Magic? IIRC, we're only aware that he's good at Herbology,
reasonably good at Charms, and merely adequate in Transfiguration. And
he learned enough in Potions, despite his fear of Snape, not to fail
that exam. Other than that, I don't think we know Neville's OWL
results, do we? 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that *anyone* is
taking NEWT-level COMC or History of Magic because the teachers of
those classes, unlike Snape, either produce no students with good
enough scores to take those classes or no Charlie Weasleys, who would
excel and want to take NEWT-level COMC no matter who taught it. Hagrid
liked him, remember. Charlie would have wanted dragons (and maybe
Manticores) for his NEWT COMC class, but probably had to settle for
hippogriffs because he had Professor Kettleburn instead of Hagrid.
>
Carol, who agrees with Wynnleaf that Snape's teaching methods (a bit
of lecturing, lots of hands-on lab work, and out-of-class reading and
essays) are exactly what's required to teach Potions (he even knows
exactly what has gone wrong when a potion is made incorrectly)






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