Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 159809

Alla:
> As to asking Dumbledore about that, well let's see all his acts 
> towards Sirius pretty much proved not only useless but wrong so far, 
> aren't they?
> 
> He took Harry from innocent man, not from the traytor, he admitted 
> that keeping Sirius in that house was a mistake.
> 
Pippin:
Where does Dumbledore admit that? IIRC, he admits that having Snape
teach Harry occlumency was a mistake and that not telling Harry
about the prophecy was a mistake. I don't recall him saying anything
about keeping Sirius in the house. We don't even know if 
Sirius's recklessness had anything to do with it. That's only Molly's 
claim, which Sirius refused to discuss. 

There is also no canon that Dumbledore wanted to take Harry
from Sirius because Sirius was a traitor. His reason for wanting
Harry was given in GoF "The real Moody would not have removed
you from my sight after what happened tonight." IOW, knowing that
there was a traitor at large, Harry would be safest in Dumbledore's
presence, which is where Hagrid was taking him.

Alla:
> It just looks to me that Dumbledore was saving Draco's soul at 
> expense of many other souls under his protection.
> 
> The blood of Ron and Kathie, had they died would have been not only 
> on Draco's hands but Dumbledore's as well, as far as I am concerned.

Pippin:
This I don't understand. Even if he had taken Draco into custody, 
how would that have made Ron and Katie safer?  Draco could have 
been locked up the moment he arrived at Hogwarts and still have 
ordered the attacks. In fact, deprived of access to the RoR, he might 
have been even more desperate to do so.

I think you are maybe expecting Draco to act like the mature DE's 
in OOP, who tamely gave themselves up as soon as Dumbledore 
arrived. But Draco is young, and not likely to think, "Oh well, better to 
be locked up by Dumbledore than punished by Voldemort for failing" 
-- not until he realized that he had no chance of success, not because 
Dumbledore was preventing him but because he was no killer.

> Alla:
> 
> Actually, I would like **one** example in canon that shows that 
> Dumbledore has a history of knowing what is best? 

Pippin:
He defeated Grindelwald. He removed the Stone from Gringotts 
before it could be stolen by Quirrell. He knew that Voldemort
would return and was prepared to take action immediately.
 He knew that Hagrid was innocent in Riddle's day and saved him
from Azkaban. He recognized that Sirius was innocent and could 
be saved if Harry and Hermione used the time turner. He recognized 
that Moody was a fake and rescued  Harry. He realized that Kreacher 
was lying and rescued Harry and the other Order members. He fought
Voldemort in the MoM and rescued Harry -- is that enough? 

Dumbledore may not have always acted as quickly as we would like,
but he still acted before anybody else did. QED.

Pippin