Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

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No: HPFGUIDX 160018

> Pippin:
> Oh, lots of people doubt that. The age of criminal responsibility 
in Europe
> alone varies all the way from 8 to 18 - below that age a child 
cannot
> be considered to have committed a crime and no charge can be 
brought.
> In RL Scotland the age is eight, but we already know that the WW
> has its own rules. 

Alla:

And Draco is sixteen.



> A_svirn: And finally, if you are
> > right, and Draco was too young to be held responsible, it follows 
that
> > he was too young to be allowed a choice. 
> 
> Pippin:
> Draco launched the attacks while he was still underage, but had 
passed
> his seventeenth birthday by the time he arrived on the tower. Then
> he could make a choice with full knowledge of what he was doing. I
> don't see him as mature enough to do so earlier and I think canon
> bears this out.

Alla:

That is only several months during which all that happened, you think 
Draco changed that much during those months?

Although I suspect that JKR wants to show that he did.

 
> Pippin:
> So it's okay for Harry to yield to Voldemort's manipulations and 
endanger
> his fellow students because he was trying to save his godfather, 
> but it's not okay for Draco to yield to Voldemort's manipulations 
and
> endanger his fellow students because he was trying to save his 
family?

Alla:

Um, I am not sure I remember Harry planning to kill somebody ( except 
Voldemort probably) while he indeed yielded to Voldemort's 
manipulations. So,while it is certainly **not** Okay, I am with 
Svirn - rescue attempt even if a result of manipulation is very 
different from murder attempt to me.



> Pippin:
<SNIP>
> Anyway, does anyone really doubt that they day will come when Harry 
will
> be very glad that Dumbledore helped Draco discover that he was not 
a 
> killer on the Tower?
> 

Alla:

No, I do not doubt that, but does that mean that Dumbledore gets of 
the hook within the story, because this is what JKR most likely 
planned?

Not in my book, sorry.

JMO,

Alla
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