Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Oct 19 23:13:38 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 160020


> Alla:
> 
> That is only several months during which all that happened, you think 
> Draco changed that much during those months?
> 
> Although I suspect that JKR wants to show that he did.
> 

Pippin:
She certainly put him through a lot. His family is threatened, he looks
pale and ill, he's deprived of his usual allies and thrown onto his own
resources. Why do all that if she didn't want him to change?


> Alla:
> 
> Um, I am not sure I remember Harry planning to kill somebody ( except 
> Voldemort probably) while he indeed yielded to Voldemort's 
> manipulations. So,while it is certainly **not** Okay, I am with 
> Svirn - rescue attempt even if a result of manipulation is very 
> different from murder attempt to me.

Pippin:
The question is whether Draco was any more capable than Harry 
of fully forming a plan and realizing its implications. Obviously not,
because  the results which Draco and Harry thought they would get
were not what an adult would reasonably expect to happen. We 
adults are at fault, according to canon, if we do not realize that 
youth thinks and feels differently than we do.

 
> > Pippin:
> <SNIP>
> > Anyway, does anyone really doubt that they day will come when Harry 
> will be very glad that Dumbledore helped Draco discover that he was not 
> a killer on the Tower?
> > 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> No, I do not doubt that, but does that mean that Dumbledore gets of 
> the hook within the story, because this is what JKR most likely 
> planned?
> 
> Not in my book, sorry.


Pippin:
Er, it's not your book, is it? You are free to disagree with JKR's position, but
JKR supports Amnesty International  and they support the Convention on the 
Rights of the Child which says that children are to be imprisoned only as a 
last resort if rehabilitation and re-integration into society are not possible. 
As JKR seems to be bent on showing us that in Draco's place it was possible,
he should not have been imprisoned.


Pippin






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