TMR Soul/ Muggle!Harry / 7th Ginny/SB /Snape's Occupation /Portkey /Fall Filk

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 160133

Tesha wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159739>:

<< Then this line from Tom. "Powerful enough to start feeding Miss
Weasley a few of MY secrets, to start pouring a little of MY soul back
into her..." His SOUL?!? Ginny has received some of his soul?!? What
could this mean? >>

The new Accio Quote! site http://www.accio-quote.org/ has Quick Quotes
Quill as Search, which found the following for me:

<http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm>

<< MA: Someone put it to me last night, that if Ginny, with the diary -
JKR: Harry definitely destroyed that piece of soul, you saw it take
shape, you saw it destroyed, it's gone. And Ginny is definitely in no
way possessed by Voldemort.
MA: Is she still a parselmouth?
JKR: No. >>

I take this to mean that the *only* remaining effect of Tom Riddle's
soul on Ginny is that she reacted more strongly than most students
(but not as strongly as Harry) to the Dementors on the train.

Doug Rogers wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159788>:

<< what would Muggle!Harry's consequent choice be? To live a life
amongst us knowing there is a far more fascinating world elsewhere, or
to live in the world of Magic with no powers? In a world were he is
unknown and has to make a brand new human life from scratch? or stay
in the world where he has history, identity, and friends? >>

I object to the idea that Harry can't have a happy and productive life
in the Muggle world (*our* world!). There are a lot of people living
reasonably happy lives in the Muggle world, including some immigrants
who have left their home country to live somewhere with different
customs and even a different language. Muggle!Harry doesn't have to
learn a new language and Floo Powder means he can have Sunday dinner
every week with the Weasleys.

I think Rowling intends that the wizarding world is not inherently
more fascinating than the Muggle world, only more fascinating because
it's less familiar to us. It saves some physical labor (using magic to
peel potatoes) and adds other (all that walking to the Portkey for the
QWC). It has jokes from Rowling's sense of humor but it doesn't have
the Internet. 

When I think of the ecstasy that Harry felt flying his broomstick and
playing his beloved Quidditch in the early books, I think that might
be the one thing that Muggle!Harry couldn't bear missing. (I don't
believe that the frequently mentioned supreme joys of sex with one's
beloved, first holding one's first baby in one's arms, first holding
one's first grandbaby in one's arms make up for it.) However, Harry
seems to get along okay without ecstasy of flight in the later books. 

Pippin wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159868>:

<< I remind you that Sirius's first plan to protect Harry was the
Secret Keeper Switch. His second plan was murdering Pettigrew, which
would have put Sirius in Azkaban even if he'd succeeded. Even if
Dumbledore was wrong about the blood protection and wrong about Snape,
which I don't believe for a minute, he still wasn't *that* stupid. >>

I think the general theory is that, with baby Harry in his arms,
Sirius wouldn't have gone after Pettigrew. This may be based on the
cliche that raising children turns parents into grown-ups.

As Alla wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159876>, With
baby Harry in Hagrid's arms en route to Dumbledore and a home without
Sirius, maybe Sirius successfully killing Pettigrew WOULD have been a
good addition to Harry's protection -- it would have prevented the
specific re-embodiment of LV that occurred in GoF.

Montims wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159839>:

<< Well, if [Ginny] has 7 children herself, she can start a new
tradition, I suppose... >>

If she marries Harry, she can have those 12 children that Trelawney
predicted for him in OoP.

Secca wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159891>:

<< took it that *she* meant 'seventh child of a seventh child'...
being a very modern and Politically Correct interpretation of the old
wives tale (Which, BTW, is *not* how I personally feel the addage was
meant 'back in the day'.) >>

The entire Potter ouevre indicates that much of what us Muggles
believe or used to believed about wizards, witches, and magic, is
highly distorted. Maybe the true magic condition is the seventh child
of a seventh child and the Muggles "back in the day" got it wrong.

Janette wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159897>:

<< From Snape leaving Hogwarts to his taking the teaching job some 3
or 4 years pass - I wonder what he was doing - I can't imagine him
working in a shop or in the Ministry, but equally I imagine he
couldn't afford to be unemployed. I know (or believe) that there is
nothing in canon, but can anyone speculate? >>

There is no canon, but I feel certain that he was the wizarding
equivalent of a grad student in Potions, which I believe would be
Apprentice to a Master in the Potioneers' Guild. I imagine the deal is
room, board, and education in exchange for work in the Master's
workshop (lab). It would make sense to me if Hogwarts *couldn't* hire
him to teach Potions until the Guild had certified him as a
journeyman, and wouldn't hire him until the Guild had certified him as
a master.

(All right! Ceridwen agrees with me!
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159986>)

Eddie wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/160080>:

<< As to why [the Portkey in GoF] returned Harry, the Wikipedia
article speculates that this may have been Voldemort's plan all along:
to send the dead Harry Potter back to Hogwarts (and outside of the
maze). >>

I know that young Barty's confession included saying he turned the Cup
into a portkey, and many listies insist that must be literally true
because of the Veritaserum, but I suspect that Veritaserum doesn't
prevent careless ways of speaking, so I believe a theory that came
from the Y!group years ago:

1) Part of the protective enchantments on Hogwarts is that no one but
the Headmaster can make a Portkey that departs from anywhere on
Hogwarts campus. Therefore, young Barty couldn't turn Harry's
toothbrush or such into a Portkey; he had to lurk in disguise until he
got his hands on a Portkey made by Dumbledore.

2) DD turned the Triwizard Cup into a Portkey that would transport the
winner from the center of the maze to in front of the judges' stand,
because it would be a dramatic and efficient end to the contest.

3) Because it was a Portkey that had been made by DD, young Barty was
able to insert a detour between the programmed departure point and the
programmed destination, thus kidnapping Harry.

4) Lord Voldemort may have intended to destroy the Portkey after he
had killed Harry, to use it to send Harry's dead body back to Hogwarts
to cause public hysteria and discredit DD, or to use it to send an
attack part of Death Eaters (maybe including himself) to kill all the
teen-agers, many adults, and some VIPs of the wizarding world as his
opening move in the Second Voldemort War (VWII).

Personally, if he thought he could do the latter after killing Harry,
I don't understand why he thought he couldn't do it just because Harry
was still alive.

Caius Marcius wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/160100>:

<< From the fall of 2000 to about the fall of 2005,  >>

Is 'the fall of 2005' anything like 'the fall of VOldemort'?